Ask HN: What can I do if someone dupes me into working for free?
Hey HN,
I recently gave an interview and was asked to make a webpage, I can see that the page is live now on the main website but the founder is not replying to my messages. What can I do in this case?
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[ 4.6 ms ] story [ 112 ms ] threadOn the plus side, you now know that you do not want to work for that company!
As for what you can do about what has already happened, definitely consult a lawyer if you feel it is work perusing. It may be worth taking to small claims.
Later, if he wants changes you have a few options:
1) Do the work and keep in safe, and send a screen shot.
OR
2) Ask for payment up front, and back pay.
Then collect before giving anything over.
Edit: Call him on the phone, leave a message and be totally honest, "I feel you are dodging my communication to avoid paying me". If he's honest, he will pay up, and even be ashamed and embarrassed. If he's dishonest, you'll get nothing, at least you will know for certain either way.
You can simply Move ON. Lesson learned.
Don't expend any more time/money/energy on these clowns!
It's just a little blip in the Grand Scheme of Things.
Utilize this pain as a call to action.
Focus on stuff you can control. Re-Set your priorities.
Now get in gear.
I would advise looking at what small claims options your jurisdiction provides.
* Let it go.
* Keep contacting the founder hoping this is just a misunderstanding.
* Be proactive.
For option 3 you would want to write down timeline and gather all of the evidence (commit logs, website screenshots, communications with the founder). After that you can let him know that he is using your work without permissions, submit a small claim court case, or talk to a lawyer.
ALWAYS protect yourself and your work or, as you can see, you’re worthless.
Find out where the site is being hosted, usually through a WHOIS search, and contact the hosting company's abuse department. Try a web search for a template of a takedown notice appropriate for the jurisdiction. For example, if the site is hosted in the USA you can send the host a standard DMCA takedown notice. Make sure the wording is correct.
You can go to a lawyer for reassurance (and if you can afford one), but for a simple copyright infringement notice sent to a web host, this is not super complicated and you can get it done yourself.
Obviously you are 'burning a bridge' here with the company that interviewed you, and you will never do work for them again, but they are treating you badly and it's OK to get more aggressive in your dealings with them. If they later claim this was a misunderstanding and remove your webpage, go ahead and invoice them at full market rate for the work anyway. They may tell you no but it's worth a try. These are all good skills to have if this happens to you again.
I'm guessing we're talking about a pretty small code test that took you maybe a day tops, in that case it's really not worth putting yourself through the ringer just to prove a point. Yes, they're assholes for doing this, but as many have said before, the best revenge is your own success without them.
It might be nice to stop this jagoff from being a jagoff to other people but it's probably not worth the stress.
This is a 'security feature' which you could deploy in future situations. I do not believe this particular implementation would be violation of any laws.