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TL;DR: "You are the product", says rich guy who runs competing business.
Does not make what he is saying any less true.
I'm just saving you time reading it.
No you're not. You're trying to taint me with your bias.
What's his competitor? I'd be curious to try a social network developed by Woz.
Maybe they think Woz runs Apple?
I was referring to Apple. If you look you'll find that FB has various products that compete with Apple. One obvious example is Messenger vs iMessage.
Woz doesn’t work at Apple.

I’m also not sure that iMessage and Messenger are even that direct competitors, the former is not a revenue stream for Apple directly, whereas the latter is for Facebook. I personally use them for very different purposes, and to communicate with different sorts of people. I’d suspect many people might be in a similar position.

> I was referring to Apple.

The company Wozniak left almost twenty years before Facebook's founding?

> If you look you'll find that FB has various products that compete with Apple. One obvious example is Messenger vs iMessage.

iMessage doesn't filter or scrape my private conversations. Facebook Messenger is a second class citizen in this regard.

Not only does he not "run" apple, he doesn't work for them at all as fair as I know. And I also wouldn't say that Facebook and Apple are simply "competing businesses". They certainly have some area of market overlap, but they operate in vastly different spaces with vastly different models.
more “you are the product” pitchfork activism. it’s more nuanced than that and woz knows it.

(speaking as someone that has never had a facebook account because the cost of being the “product” isn’t worth it to me for the value i would receive.)

Same with Google right?

"Old man yells at clouds."

- sums it up nicely.