Ironically, that’s what makes it hard for me to take Hamas seriously — they feel like they can blow up a bus and yet if Israel responds, the “international” community has a conniption fit.
The parent comment disappeared so I cannot answer you without recalling from memory what was said. That's unfair because I don't have confidence in my memory.
They killed the cofounder of the military wing of Hamas. Hardly an innocent. Making a statement like “assasinated a person in a hotel” makes it sound like they killed some tourist rather than a man responsible for countless violence. If they assasinated Osama Bin Laden, would that be ok? As a “techie,” I would be proud to have helped take out someone like Bin Laden but I would of course, not be happy if that tech were used to intentionally kill innocent people. Ironically, the man killed had no problem himself directing the deaths of innocent civilians. It’s the difference between killing a wolf attacking kids on a playground versus shooting a family dog in someone’s living room. The two situations aren’t morally equivalent at all.
The end result of the Hamas assassination was that a violent and dangerous person who led the killing of countless civilians is dead. So yes, let’s not forget the end result — a wolf was shot before he could attack again.
I am not going to comment on intelligence services in general, but the example you provide is ironically, a counter argument for the point you seem to be attempting. You seem to be suggesting that techies generally would want to work to preserve life rather than take it and, with the Dubai operation, that’s exactly what happened: lives were saved by taking down a dangerous man with a history of leading the killing of innocent people.
No coincidences with games like this. :)
(I went over it again, and of course a simple blob isn't just a binary, it has no magic bytes or anything, stupid.)
Using "Israel-is-70" gives me ... 3?.205.32.11
Which of course looks like an IP-address, but incomplete (the ? is C0). Probably made a mistake with the decoding of the key-part of the brainfuck. Still, only 10 numbers to pick from: 3[0-9].205.32.11
Edit: thanks to Seagull for pointing it out already, the key was off by one byte. So that gives 35.205.32.11
You don't really need aljazeera to know that Israel isn't such a nice country when it comes to mowing down human lives because their god told them that's their promised land
> because their god told them that's their promised land
A substantial portion of the earliest Zionist settlers were atheists and a substantial portion of hawkish Israelis today are. The insistence on founding and maintaining a Jewish state in Israel is not overall theologically motivated.
I have no pretention of saying that Israel is 'good' or 'bad' wether mossad is 'right' or 'wrong'. All I am saying is that if you want to convey facts to prove your point, please provide actual information as much as possible by avoiding clearly biased "news" site.
> because their god told them that's their promised land
Can you please stop spewing antisemitic bullshit, especially on the 70th anniversary of Israel?
Israel was founded after thousands of years of antisemitism ranging from verbal abuse over pogroms up to the Holocaust so that Jews would have a safe haven from antisemitism.
Jew here. What's anti-semtic about this. Did `G-d` not tell the Jews it's their promised land? Is it not part of the justification used in elements of the dispute?
Antisemitism is not the act of disagreeing with a Jewish person. It's bigotry based on that classification. This is unequivocally not anti-Semitic in my mind and I'm saying that from the perspective of someone who has experienced bigoted anti-Semitic treatment.
I’m Israeli and my family was murdered by antisemites like you. I do not believe in god, but I believe in history.
Yes, the IDF kills innocent civilians. But so does every army, like the US army for example. It’s not done on purpose. When soldiers do it on purpose and not to save lives, they get punished.
Are the people they're up against really all that morally superior?
I'm not making a whataboutist point, it's just that if you're picking a side you have to look at more than just one of them. So absolutely soldiers should be held accountable for their treatment of captives, and e.g. Israeli soldiers have been jailed for assaulting prisoners, but I don't see many Palestinians being jailed by their own administrative authority for killing Israeli civilians.
Neither side should be above criticism, but when it comes to actively supporting one side or the other you have to look at the record of both.
It is the occupation and the every expanding settlements that is generally seen as the problem. One people who do not have rights under the control of another for the last 50 or so years. The same issue in apartheid South Africa. That is the fundamental and core issue, everything else is noise around it.
And the occupation can not end because so many want to keep the settlements expanding.
I would agree with some of the point you raise: no clear moral superiority of some of the people they are against.
Do recall that that Israel has followed a policy of assassination based on political disagreement. People have been assassinated for their speech and opinion.
That is reprehensible. The fact that Israeli civilians are routinely murdered for being Israeli, and that doing that is considered the primary tool of policy by one side in the conflict, is also reprehensible.
On a specific issue such as a particular crime or incident I don't believe whataboutist rhetoric is justifiable. In fact it appalls me. But I'm not going to boycott Israel on the basis of a moral argument for their behaviour in a conflict without also hearing why we're not also boycotting the other side too. There are several sides in that conflict. If we want to understand and address it, that needs to be done with the blinkers off.
Aren't we talking about government salaries here? It's not like there aren't (more) lucrative options elsewhere for any and all qualified candidates. Money isn't always the primary motivator.
... as it was said, the first brainfuck program prints xor-with-key. The second program doesn't output anything but it sets the memory "array" with 12 non-zero values. By XORing these values with the phrase present in the image (12 characters too) you get "35.205.32.11" which can be an IP (something in Google's ranges), geographical coordinates (interpreted as x,y they point somewhere in Israel, in fact) or I don't know whatever else.
This link leads to page with the first challenge: "Your help is needed once again to solve an urgent matter. Our digital forensics division is trying to track the source of a phishing attack on one of our government officials..."
I think it's more a joke from the fake 'anonymous' hacker in context to the tech-news. After some testing I think the solution could be within this so called 'pass-through' attack which is described in the tech-news.
There is an 'admin' account, with whom I think you can access the /administration site. For now I think the solution could be with modifying cookies, maybe the session cookie (after you create an account and log in) to get access to the admin account
I think the exploit would have something to do with the PNG
profile picture upload feature,
I've figured out how to upload my own files but not sure what I can do with this.
You are incorrect, we are allowed to discuss politics on hacker news and have opinions on politics, especially when it intersects technology. It is done all the time here on hacker news.
> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon.
You are quoting a guideline about what stories should be posted to Hacker News, and using that in your argument that we can not discuss political aspects of a story. That is not the case.
> The political side effects are not of technical interest.
This is your opinion, which you are trying to pretend is a rule here on hacker news.
Not trying to pretend any rules. Just convention I've seen here over the years with some reference in the guidelines. If you feel you need to discuss politics, by all means - go crazy.
Why would anyone who is aware of what's going on in the world today want to work for military/intelligence murderers? Deception is the main weapon for these scumbags and that very weapon is regularly used to fleece the rest of the population.
Unless you're going to work from the inside to expose their massive amounts of bullshit, I find it deplorable. Honestly, I think you'd have to be either brain-washed by the cult-like repetition of nationalism and military-hero worship or just a real evil asshole to dedicate your life to helping these people.
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[ 2.5 ms ] story [ 145 ms ] threadhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Mahmoud_Al-Ma...
The only reason I point this out is because many (most?) techies have a natural aversion to helping out this sort of thing.
It's totally fine if you don't. But it's easy to forget the end result.
It feels like a CIA / KGB learned trait.
I think I'm most frustrated by the notion of other nations going to work in my country. You do you. But not in my yard, eh.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_Road_bus_bombings
But legally speaking do you agree that's probably not legal? And if so, then would you say it's OK to bypass the law with it's convenient for you?
The end result of the Hamas assassination was that a violent and dangerous person who led the killing of countless civilians is dead. So yes, let’s not forget the end result — a wolf was shot before he could attack again.
I am not going to comment on intelligence services in general, but the example you provide is ironically, a counter argument for the point you seem to be attempting. You seem to be suggesting that techies generally would want to work to preserve life rather than take it and, with the Dubai operation, that’s exactly what happened: lives were saved by taking down a dangerous man with a history of leading the killing of innocent people.
Here's the beginning of the Left blue block, if anyone wants to continue:
>+-++<>-+--><[+-[
]+-]<+--+>[+--+]<
[+>+<-]><----[-->
>+-++<>-+--><[+-[ ]+-]<+--+>[+--+]< [+>+<-]><----[--> +++<]>--.-------- -.+++.[++>---<]>+ +.-[----->++<]>-. +[->+++<]>+.+++++ ++++++.---------- --.----[->+++<]>+ .-[-->+++++<]>--- .------.[--->+<]> ++.[-]>+-++<>-+-- ><[+-[]+-]<+--+>[ +--+]<[+>+<-]><>+ -++<>-+--><[+-[]+ -]<+--+>[+--+]<[]
=> xor-with-key
+++++++++++[>++++ +++++++<-]>+[<+>- ]-[>+<-------]>-- -[<+>-][<+>-]>++> +[>++[-<++++++>]< <]>[<+>-]>+>++[++ >++[-<+++++>]<<]> [<+>-]>+>+[>++++[ -<++++>]<<]>[<+>- ]++++++++[>++++++ +++++<-]>+[<+>-]+ ++>>+>+[->+++[-<+ ++++>]<<]>[<+>-]+ +++++++[>++++++++ <-]>+[<+>-]+++>++ ++++>+>+-++<>-+--
=> z.\SUY.ZA...
(hex values of the key: 7A B3 5C 53 55 59 03 5A 41 03 06 01)
xor-ing the .png with the key gives a data blob, so it's either an executable (which I'm not going to run) or I did something wrong.
Coincidence?
Edit: thanks to Seagull for pointing it out already, the key was off by one byte. So that gives 35.205.32.11
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/03/israeli-forces-kill-3...
A substantial portion of the earliest Zionist settlers were atheists and a substantial portion of hawkish Israelis today are. The insistence on founding and maintaining a Jewish state in Israel is not overall theologically motivated.
Can you please stop spewing antisemitic bullshit, especially on the 70th anniversary of Israel?
Israel was founded after thousands of years of antisemitism ranging from verbal abuse over pogroms up to the Holocaust so that Jews would have a safe haven from antisemitism.
Antisemitism is not the act of disagreeing with a Jewish person. It's bigotry based on that classification. This is unequivocally not anti-Semitic in my mind and I'm saying that from the perspective of someone who has experienced bigoted anti-Semitic treatment.
Yes, the IDF kills innocent civilians. But so does every army, like the US army for example. It’s not done on purpose. When soldiers do it on purpose and not to save lives, they get punished.
I'm not making a whataboutist point, it's just that if you're picking a side you have to look at more than just one of them. So absolutely soldiers should be held accountable for their treatment of captives, and e.g. Israeli soldiers have been jailed for assaulting prisoners, but I don't see many Palestinians being jailed by their own administrative authority for killing Israeli civilians.
Neither side should be above criticism, but when it comes to actively supporting one side or the other you have to look at the record of both.
And the occupation can not end because so many want to keep the settlements expanding.
Do recall that that Israel has followed a policy of assassination based on political disagreement. People have been assassinated for their speech and opinion.
On a specific issue such as a particular crime or incident I don't believe whataboutist rhetoric is justifiable. In fact it appalls me. But I'm not going to boycott Israel on the basis of a moral argument for their behaviour in a conflict without also hearing why we're not also boycotting the other side too. There are several sides in that conflict. If we want to understand and address it, that needs to be done with the blinkers off.
option 2) you take the high ground. Someone else takes the job. Bad things happen in the world and you don't end up richer.
What did we accomplish today?
Wouldn't surprise me if there are some cultural shibboleths in the challenge as well.
https://imgur.com/a/6r48NEN
... as it was said, the first brainfuck program prints xor-with-key. The second program doesn't output anything but it sets the memory "array" with 12 non-zero values. By XORing these values with the phrase present in the image (12 characters too) you get "35.205.32.11" which can be an IP (something in Google's ranges), geographical coordinates (interpreted as x,y they point somewhere in Israel, in fact) or I don't know whatever else.
There is an 'admin' account, with whom I think you can access the /administration site. For now I think the solution could be with modifying cookies, maybe the session cookie (after you create an account and log in) to get access to the admin account
You are quoting a guideline about what stories should be posted to Hacker News, and using that in your argument that we can not discuss political aspects of a story. That is not the case.
> The political side effects are not of technical interest.
This is your opinion, which you are trying to pretend is a rule here on hacker news.
Unless you're going to work from the inside to expose their massive amounts of bullshit, I find it deplorable. Honestly, I think you'd have to be either brain-washed by the cult-like repetition of nationalism and military-hero worship or just a real evil asshole to dedicate your life to helping these people.