I didn't have to log in, I thought they were doing away with content behind logins anyway, also I can't fault Ebay for suing if they were getting devauled in the deal with no returns; This move makes Ebay look evil
Does it matter? I would think that all the relevant rights and responsibilities to shareholders would be the same no matter who the stock was bought from, but I'm not an expert in the matter.
It's not a public company, and if the contract or moral obligation to the original shareholder was inalienable (probably), it shouldn't be treated like it is.
A somewhat tangential question...for a company like Craigslist that seems content to collect profits as an independent private company rather than cash out with a sale or an IPO, what happens to those that hold stock? I'm thinking not just of investors like eBay but in particular their employees. Since lots of starup employees decide where to work based on where they will be able to cash out their options, how does a company like Craigslist keep its employees on board?
Or they have a longer term strategy that's known within the company, but frankly I like the idea of just running it like a business and paying the employees. I really agree with DHH's talk this past weekend (even though I don't always agree with DHH in general). There is a lot to be said for just running a business profitably.
Whatever the particulars or merits of the suit, I'm sure Craigslist fans will stand by the company -- especially with company notices titled "Tainted Love." Classic.
The math is pretty simple here. The Dentist [eBay] has a way to claim damages from Epiphyte [Craigslist]. The amount of those damages is x, where x is what the Dentist, as a minority shareholder, would have made in capital gains if Randy had been responsible enough to write a better contract with Semper Marine [if Newmark and Buckmaster hadn't unfairly diluted their ownership]. If such a contract had specified a fifty-fifty split, then x would be equal to fifty percent of the cash value of the wreck times the one tenth of Epiphyte that the Dentist owns minus a few percent for taxes and other frictional effects of the real world [Ebay says: Can you believe all the revenue opportunities that Craiglist has passed on!?]. So if there's ten million dollars in the wreck, then x works out to around half a million bucks.
In order for the Dentist to gain control of Epiphyte, he has to acquire an additional forty [23] percent of its stock. The price of that stock (if it were for sale) is simply 0.4 [0.23] times the total value of Epiphyte. Call it y.
If x > y, the Dentist wins. Because then the judge is going to say, "You, Epiphyte, owe this poor aggrieved minority shareholder $x. But as I look at the parlous state of the corporation's finances I see that there's no way for you to raise that kind of money. And so the only way to settle the debt is to give the plaintiff the one asset you have in abundance, which is your crappy stock. And since the value of the whole corporation is really, really close to being zero, you're going to have to give him almost all of it."
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[ 5.3 ms ] story [ 33.8 ms ] threadA somewhat tangential question...for a company like Craigslist that seems content to collect profits as an independent private company rather than cash out with a sale or an IPO, what happens to those that hold stock? I'm thinking not just of investors like eBay but in particular their employees. Since lots of starup employees decide where to work based on where they will be able to cash out their options, how does a company like Craigslist keep its employees on board?
Or they have a longer term strategy that's known within the company, but frankly I like the idea of just running it like a business and paying the employees. I really agree with DHH's talk this past weekend (even though I don't always agree with DHH in general). There is a lot to be said for just running a business profitably.
The math is pretty simple here. The Dentist [eBay] has a way to claim damages from Epiphyte [Craigslist]. The amount of those damages is x, where x is what the Dentist, as a minority shareholder, would have made in capital gains if Randy had been responsible enough to write a better contract with Semper Marine [if Newmark and Buckmaster hadn't unfairly diluted their ownership]. If such a contract had specified a fifty-fifty split, then x would be equal to fifty percent of the cash value of the wreck times the one tenth of Epiphyte that the Dentist owns minus a few percent for taxes and other frictional effects of the real world [Ebay says: Can you believe all the revenue opportunities that Craiglist has passed on!?]. So if there's ten million dollars in the wreck, then x works out to around half a million bucks.
In order for the Dentist to gain control of Epiphyte, he has to acquire an additional forty [23] percent of its stock. The price of that stock (if it were for sale) is simply 0.4 [0.23] times the total value of Epiphyte. Call it y.
If x > y, the Dentist wins. Because then the judge is going to say, "You, Epiphyte, owe this poor aggrieved minority shareholder $x. But as I look at the parlous state of the corporation's finances I see that there's no way for you to raise that kind of money. And so the only way to settle the debt is to give the plaintiff the one asset you have in abundance, which is your crappy stock. And since the value of the whole corporation is really, really close to being zero, you're going to have to give him almost all of it."