I’ll be very surprised if enterprise customers would move away form GitHub because of this move if anything it might be a plus now.
I suspect some of the more Stallmanist FOSS projects might move away (although I’m not sure why aren’t they on GitLab already) and there will be #MeToo migration of personal repos of people who need something new to post to their Tweeter feed which will last about a news cycle or so.
We really need to give github some credit. They have had our backs for the longest time and I don't think they will just give up on its community now.
Microsoft is getting better all the time, they are an important OS contributor, and they seem to be doing pretty ok by devs.
Let's just give both of them some time to tell and show us what their plans are. There is no reason to burn this relationship from day -1.
ps. Github was and is pretty much pretty walled up, I'll keep hoping that at some point they'll allow to add external remotes to github repos, or at least collaborate with gitlab to allow PR/MRs between the two.
I'll be mirroring my stuff to gitlab (an instance that I control). The reason for that is fairly simple: I have never seen an acquisition by Microsoft be a positive development for the software.
On a more ideological level, I think the company is fundamentally reprehensible in it's business practices and has been for the entire time that I've known they exist. I do not think they will ever change and I do not think they came from a good place that they could return to. It wouldn't be right to support them any more than I have to (for example, things I need to do my job).
The well deserved bad rap for MS is waning. They made some changes in the last few years that seem to be a step in the right direction. I will give them the benefit of the doubt. For now.
I wanted to do that for a long time already, because getting trapped in closed "ecosystem" is never good, but being able to jump the bandwagon made it so much easier :P
Has Github really done anything innovative lately?
Usually you see a slowdown in changes when a big company acquires a company like Github and the existing staff leaves or is purged. I wouldn’t be surprised if a more “managed” approach by Microsoft produces a lot more features/improvements.
The foundation of the most popular text editor right now, VSCode, is based upon Electron & Atom. So yeah GitHub really paved a way for all the Electron apps.
Also, GitHub really works perfectly for me & I don't frankly need any new features as I am perfectly fine with what's given. There is less likely that I miss something on GitHub or need some new feature :)
I don't believe Microsoft is necessarily "evil." But the amount of consolidation that is going on in the tech is really scary. Five American (yes it matters that they are all US-based, given the jingoistic direction the world is taking) companies; Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Apple and Amazon, wields an insane amount of power over the rest of the world.
I think we techies need to come up with democratic, free alternatives for these services. Something like GitHub but federated so that not a single party has to pay for all the bandwidth and server costs.
@Those that say Micro$oft is getting better.. remember they are a business and sure they seem to be "credible" now, but in reality the past CEO was blunt about his moves and the new CEO is sly.
well, all this noise at least made me aware of https://allura.apache.org/ ( i know, was i living under a rock ?! ).
I would try it on a container sometime...
Yes, we are moving out our enterprise account from github to bitbucket. Actually it is already done. Right now we are in the migration phase where we are updating all the links in legacy install base to bitbucket.
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I suspect some of the more Stallmanist FOSS projects might move away (although I’m not sure why aren’t they on GitLab already) and there will be #MeToo migration of personal repos of people who need something new to post to their Tweeter feed which will last about a news cycle or so.
I'll certainly wait how this works out and not make any rash decisions.
Apart from that (and admittedly apart from Skype), Microsoft in recent years has gained quite some credibility from my point of view.
Microsoft is getting better all the time, they are an important OS contributor, and they seem to be doing pretty ok by devs.
Let's just give both of them some time to tell and show us what their plans are. There is no reason to burn this relationship from day -1.
ps. Github was and is pretty much pretty walled up, I'll keep hoping that at some point they'll allow to add external remotes to github repos, or at least collaborate with gitlab to allow PR/MRs between the two.
On a more ideological level, I think the company is fundamentally reprehensible in it's business practices and has been for the entire time that I've known they exist. I do not think they will ever change and I do not think they came from a good place that they could return to. It wouldn't be right to support them any more than I have to (for example, things I need to do my job).
Usually you see a slowdown in changes when a big company acquires a company like Github and the existing staff leaves or is purged. I wouldn’t be surprised if a more “managed” approach by Microsoft produces a lot more features/improvements.
Also, GitHub really works perfectly for me & I don't frankly need any new features as I am perfectly fine with what's given. There is less likely that I miss something on GitHub or need some new feature :)
I think we techies need to come up with democratic, free alternatives for these services. Something like GitHub but federated so that not a single party has to pay for all the bandwidth and server costs.
Gitlab all the way!