An African American man shouldn't have to thank a cop for not harassing him. Instead, police should do their job. I'm certain you don't thank every driver that doesn't hit you either.
Likewise, companies shouldn't expect me to thank them for being responsible. All they need to know is that being irresponsible carries consequences (eg. all the people leaving Facebook). Facebook giving overly-broad access to everyone under the sun is well-known (and the only reason Mozilla posted in the first place).
So they say that users could import their Facebook contacts onto their Firefox OS phones and that information wasn't shared with Mozilla, but what about the "adaptive app search"[1] on Firefox OS? That was implemented by querying a third-party service, "Everything.me", run by a different company.
Did that service get access to contacts? (Aside from the implicit access by way of your contact searches from the system search bar presumably being sent to them as app searches.)
A politico/Frontline style investigative documentary needs to be happen on the inner workings of Mozilla. Their financial reports are full of red flags (~$130M on marketing and operations in 2016 consutituting ~33% of expenses!!!).
Their posturing is much too similar to politicians - 'we work for you the people's good', and any and all criticism squashed away swiftly under the guise of moral superiority.
60+47 = 127, that I rounded up to ~130, for marketing and operations.
How much did Atlassian spend in marketing, or GitLab? Almost nothing (by design). How much does GitLab spend on office space? Almost $0 as they choose to do wisely with their money than feed an overpriced San Francisco real estate market.
Indeed these are extreme examples, but I hope you realise 33% of expenses on non-core activities isn't typically tolerated in for profits. It certainly shouldn't be the norm for a non profit.
Mozilla's US compensation for devs averages out to ~$137K/year. Are you telling me that Mozilla is justified in staying in the most expensive zip code (for operations) by choice, and choosing to underpay it's developers by design? I can keep going, but the numbers don't compute, they're fishy
Mozilla spent $47 million out of $520 million in revenue on marketing. That's 9%. More than Apple, less than Microsoft.
Do you know what's in the "General and administrative" bucket? I don't know exactly what would go in there, but maybe it would.
> Mozilla's US compensation for devs averages out to ~$137K/year.
Where did you get this number, pray tell me? Dividing Mozilla's "Software development" number from the financial statement by the estimated total number of employees gives me significantly larger numbers than that, and not all those employees are in the US.
> Are you telling me that Mozilla is justified in staying in the most expensive zip code (for operations)
Mozilla has multiple office locations, in different places which are variously expensive or not, plus a number of remote workers.
> and choosing to underpay it's developers by design
I would like to see some evidence for this claim, please, if you expect me to treat this as anything other than an attempt to troll me.
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[ 3.4 ms ] story [ 31.3 ms ] threadLikewise, companies shouldn't expect me to thank them for being responsible. All they need to know is that being irresponsible carries consequences (eg. all the people leaving Facebook). Facebook giving overly-broad access to everyone under the sun is well-known (and the only reason Mozilla posted in the first place).
Did that service get access to contacts? (Aside from the implicit access by way of your contact searches from the system search bar presumably being sent to them as app searches.)
[1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H9zwf0VMVDI
Their posturing is much too similar to politicians - 'we work for you the people's good', and any and all criticism squashed away swiftly under the guise of moral superiority.
How much marketing spend do you think Google had on Chrome in 2016?
How much should office space for the number of people Mozilla has cost, in your opinion?
[Disclosure: I work for Mozilla, on Firefox, not in marketing.]
How much did Atlassian spend in marketing, or GitLab? Almost nothing (by design). How much does GitLab spend on office space? Almost $0 as they choose to do wisely with their money than feed an overpriced San Francisco real estate market.
Indeed these are extreme examples, but I hope you realise 33% of expenses on non-core activities isn't typically tolerated in for profits. It certainly shouldn't be the norm for a non profit.
Mozilla's US compensation for devs averages out to ~$137K/year. Are you telling me that Mozilla is justified in staying in the most expensive zip code (for operations) by choice, and choosing to underpay it's developers by design? I can keep going, but the numbers don't compute, they're fishy
> How much did Atlassian spend in marketing, or GitLab?
Are they competing with companies that are spending hundreds of millions of dollars a years on marketing the competing product?
> but I hope you realise 33% of expenses on non-core activities > isn't typically tolerated in for profits
According to https://vtldesign.com/digital-marketing/content-marketing-st... Microsoft spends 18% of _revenue_ on marketing/sales. Oracle, 20%. Twitter, 44%. Salesforce, 53%. Apple, 7%.
Mozilla spent $47 million out of $520 million in revenue on marketing. That's 9%. More than Apple, less than Microsoft.
Do you know what's in the "General and administrative" bucket? I don't know exactly what would go in there, but maybe it would.
> Mozilla's US compensation for devs averages out to ~$137K/year.
Where did you get this number, pray tell me? Dividing Mozilla's "Software development" number from the financial statement by the estimated total number of employees gives me significantly larger numbers than that, and not all those employees are in the US.
> Are you telling me that Mozilla is justified in staying in the most expensive zip code (for operations)
Mozilla has multiple office locations, in different places which are variously expensive or not, plus a number of remote workers.
> and choosing to underpay it's developers by design
I would like to see some evidence for this claim, please, if you expect me to treat this as anything other than an attempt to troll me.