> As the bus approached an agricultural checkpoint at the Nevada state line, Ms. Smalls said the driver made an unusual announcement: “We are being boarded by Border Patrol. Please be prepared to show your documentation upon request.”
It was a CBP action at the physical location of an agricultural checkpoint, not an agricultural check on the way out of the state.
Going into Nevada on 80 there's no ag checkpoint. But returning to CA there is. California has a many $B ag industry to protect. Depending on the current threat they ask about specific things like mud on mountain bikes, fruit, etc.
Never had them ask for ID though. I have seem significant policy activity occasionally, presumably because they were looking for someone in particular.
I read it just fine; it claimed to "approach" something that doesn't exist. There is nothing on the eastbound side corresponding to any form of "checkpoint". It would be strange (and illegal) to just have a random shoulder operation. Meanwhile, Greyhound has said no such event occurred.
The ACLU article claims no source other than a random Facebook posting.
> teaches us that sometimes knowing one’s rights and speaking out with confidence delivers truth to abusive power
One thing I worry in this kind of situation is that you think you know your right, but you are wrong, either because the laws changed since the last time you've studied them, because there is some precedent, or simply because there are lots of fine details.
One lawyer made an interesting point: you need to clarify if the law enforcer "wants" as opposed to "demands/orders", and that you should always comply with orders.
IANAL, but that seems to set a dangerous precedent to our rights as Americans, especially if they're just asking for ID and you absolutely haven't committed any crimes.
Where did you see that Greyhound said no such event occurred? When searching for it all I see are articles that only cite the Facebook post as proof. There are no videos from any passengers, or statements from Greyhound I can find. If you could post a link it would be greatly appreciated.
I feel really unsure about what exactly is and is not allowed by the Fourth Amendment, especially in this technological age we find ourselves. Is there some honest information out there?
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[ 0.23 ms ] story [ 47.1 ms ] threadThis sounds like a hoax. There are no "agricultural checkpoints" for vehicles leaving California.
> As the bus approached an agricultural checkpoint at the Nevada state line, Ms. Smalls said the driver made an unusual announcement: “We are being boarded by Border Patrol. Please be prepared to show your documentation upon request.”
It was a CBP action at the physical location of an agricultural checkpoint, not an agricultural check on the way out of the state.
Never had them ask for ID though. I have seem significant policy activity occasionally, presumably because they were looking for someone in particular.
The ACLU article claims no source other than a random Facebook posting.
One thing I worry in this kind of situation is that you think you know your right, but you are wrong, either because the laws changed since the last time you've studied them, because there is some precedent, or simply because there are lots of fine details.
One lawyer made an interesting point: you need to clarify if the law enforcer "wants" as opposed to "demands/orders", and that you should always comply with orders.
IANAL, but that seems to set a dangerous precedent to our rights as Americans, especially if they're just asking for ID and you absolutely haven't committed any crimes.