Ask HN: Is it possible to work part time?

No employer is going to let you work part time. There's a lot of time and expense involved in finding and maintaining programmers, and they'd rather have a full-timer instead.

As for starting your own company, those always take more time than a full-time job if you want to make any money.

I think you do need to move to freelance/contract work, and be firm in how you structure your work agreements. If it's MTW, with Th-Sun off, be up front about that. You'll be able to find gigs where they just need you 5-10 hours per week. Get 2-3 of those, work your time, then take time off - you should be good to go.

Most of those part-time gigs may not pay as well as f/t work, but you're looking for the time freedom, not maximized revenue anyway, right?

http://indieconf.com might be useful for you to attend, with respect to getting started in freelancing. We don't specifically have anything on 'going part time', but I'm sure some of the sessions can address that.

I'm told that many consultants do something like this. If full-utilization for a consultant is $200,000 (and that is by no means a ceiling), then 50% still puts your household in a pretty decent place to be. There exist some consulting opportunities where you can schedule arbitrary amounts of work over long time scales -- I have one client relationship where, if I wanted to bill four hours on Monday and four hours on Tuesday and then never touch the keyboard again, he'd be thrilled by that. There are other opportunities if you want to parachute in, work for two weeks, and then get back to living.

I also work part-time for a startup. In this case, I'm more of a consultant; some weeks I'm very busy, other weeks I might do nothing at all.

Part-time work is out there, but it's not always floating on the top.

I'm 100% FTE at a university right now doing sysadmin/programming/network stuff for a small team and will be moving far away and telecommuting at 50% FTE in a few months.

Like patio11 says, everything is negotiable. Additionally, I did a LOT of networking (the human kind) and it paid off. The guy who hooked me up with this isn't even a tech guy -- he knew people who needed one, though.

EDIT: 50% FTE includes full retirement and health benefits, too, in my situation.

I had a day job for a little while when I had gotten tired of the constant sales cycle of consulting. They were more than happy to let me go part time because I brought a good plan to the table - I worked 20% less and took a 12% pay cut - they got the benefit of the fact that I was learning new stuff on the day that I wasn't in the office.

Anything is possible, all you have to do is make a plan.

It does mean i have to be financially disciplined, which thankfully (after learning the hard way) does now come easy to me. It also allows me the flexibility to not be tied down to one location throughout the entire year, which working 2-3 days a week does.

1. scrounge for several short-term contracts.

The problem with this approach is that the life of the independent contractor is very feast or famine. My biggest problem was that I'd put effort into selling and then I'd end up with more hours of work than I wanted; then I'd pull back and I'd end up with not enough.

The advantage is that you can often charge higher hourly rates, and it doesn't require establishing yourself as difficult to replace at your current job.

You can pull it off, but there is a lot of sales and financial planning you need to do. I've personally supported myself this way for almost a year, but it was pretty difficult.

2. talk your current employer into letting you do the same work, only two or three days a week.

(this usually involves losing your health insurance and most other benefits)

If you want to work 20 hours a week for the same employer steady-like (as opposed to scrounging for work all the time) you will have to take the job full time and make yourself hard to replace, first; then you explain the situation to the boss. I've had pretty good luck doing this... better luck, in fact, than the aforementioned 'scrounging for several small contracts' strategy. I've probably done this for a total of two years of my career (while working on prgmr.com) and they were relatively easy years (vs. my year doing #1, which was really difficult, and involved eating a lot of tuna.) This strategy results in a steadier (and for me, larger) income, and because I'm really not that good at selling 'premium products' it usually results in me earning more per hour, if you count sales effort. Someone who is better at sales might have the opposite result, just 'cause part time catch as catch can gigs often can give you better hourly rates.

You should be prepared with the concessions you're willing to make to make this happen and this will likely be asked when you float the idea.

Also, consider that you've moved up Maslow's hierarchy of needs and re-evaluate a lot of things in your life that may no longer be relevant. I'd bet you're transitioning from esteem to self-actualization. This could make cutting expenses much easier than you think it is because you no longer derive much happiness from materialism.

I'm not sure that I have very many useful lessons for other people, other than that it is possible to make money by selling stuff online while doing your own supply chain/order fulfillment. It took more than three years of SEO growth for us to hit critical mass.

Once we established the required habits, we ended up with a small nest egg which has come into handy.

Although I do have to take on short consulting gigs to top up the fund, they are becoming less frequent as I we get better at managing.

The only difference is that P/T work for employers hasn't worked out as expected. Instead, I take on project oriented work which lets me bill for completed work and have deliverables and milestones that fit with the other activities. Sometimes it is tough to say No to work that has deadlines that would require working F/T or more to deliver on time.

Nobody was interested in this. They would offer me very, very generous packages, but only for full time work. This part time idea was a no-go.

Startups have this dream that every employee is in ALL THE WAY. They think it will be bad for morale if the other employees are working their asses off and you don't show up now and then.

In my opinion, this is silly. Either my services are valuable or they're not. If they are, then they are also valuable in part. But, perhaps not.