To save others time, this article is about how the BC should have gone even further to support the "Remain" campaign and how it should have fought against "Leave" and their alleged dishonesty, nothing more.
The gist of the article seems to be that the beeb knew stuff and refused to tell people cos it was frightened of the mob like, populist attack dogs. Now the attack dogs are real - just like in a proper dictatorship- for example the front page headlines calling our entire supreme court traitors and publishing their addresses (that should have been jail time for the editors and shows what a scary time it was two years ago.)
But the beeb made its usual failure of trying to be even handed (you know here are 20,000 scientists warning of climate change, here is one old fool we dug up - let's give them equal screen time)
But the main failure was that no one knew anything. No one popped up with a list of the 750 euro agencies we would leave - no one had the impact statements on every industrial sector (we still famously don't).
There just was no information on the downside. And this was apparently by design on the orders of the PM Cameron tomstop it looking like the government was being used to scare people into his side
So recent Danny Dyer hilariously blamed Cameron for all
this mess - and yes it is his fault. But it is also Boris Johnson's faukt for making it mainstream to vote leave (we could all see what shits Farage and the millionaire bloke who is in the picture were - and they would have stayed at 15% were it not for johnson
Finally parliament let a referendum go through to an Act with the awful wording and consequences (it's no good to say no one believed leave might win - parliament is for those kind of what ifs)
so - no it's not the beebs fault - not fully. and their sins are minor
- The intellectual arguments against brexit were either mostly unknown (the sheer depth to which we are joined to Europe (cf the litany of things that will go sideways if we become a third country - not just the obvious stuff like queues at Dover port which was well discussed, but transporting nuclear material necessary for medicine or access to military grade GPS satellites.)
The establishment in the UK which the BBC is very much a part of is heavily remain. Teresa May is also very much a Remainer and is trying to sell a deal to the public that would exit the UK from the EU in name only. Cameron stood down from the Prime Ministership because he didn't believe Brexit was the correct decision. If May wasn't interested in carrying out Brexit she should have followed Cameron's example and not taken the leadership.
As someone living in the UK I think the EU holding trade with the EU as a hostage is disgraceful. I understand the EU has real concerns about rule harmonisation it wants to protect and the UK leaving the Union is going to put pressure on that. However, let us say the UK exited the EU tomorrow. What effect would this have on the rules the UK operates under and would this negatively effect the EU enough that it would make sense for them to end trade with the UK? My guess is there would be very little initial change in the law in the UK. Initially I'm guessing the UK would end the jurisdiction of the ECJ, end free labour movement of EU citizens to the UK and stop taking new legislation from the EU. However, note that on day 1 probably all of the laws effecting trade and harmonisation of rules would still most likely be in place. It would make more sense in the no-deal situation for the EU to keep the current free trade in place and introduce exceptions as the UK begins to drift from the common market rules or negotiates free-er trade agreements with other countries that would undermine the harmonisation rules.
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[ 6.0 ms ] story [ 34.8 ms ] threadBut the beeb made its usual failure of trying to be even handed (you know here are 20,000 scientists warning of climate change, here is one old fool we dug up - let's give them equal screen time)
But the main failure was that no one knew anything. No one popped up with a list of the 750 euro agencies we would leave - no one had the impact statements on every industrial sector (we still famously don't).
There just was no information on the downside. And this was apparently by design on the orders of the PM Cameron tomstop it looking like the government was being used to scare people into his side
So recent Danny Dyer hilariously blamed Cameron for all this mess - and yes it is his fault. But it is also Boris Johnson's faukt for making it mainstream to vote leave (we could all see what shits Farage and the millionaire bloke who is in the picture were - and they would have stayed at 15% were it not for johnson
Finally parliament let a referendum go through to an Act with the awful wording and consequences (it's no good to say no one believed leave might win - parliament is for those kind of what ifs)
so - no it's not the beebs fault - not fully. and their sins are minor
- The intellectual arguments against brexit were either mostly unknown (the sheer depth to which we are joined to Europe (cf the litany of things that will go sideways if we become a third country - not just the obvious stuff like queues at Dover port which was well discussed, but transporting nuclear material necessary for medicine or access to military grade GPS satellites.)
As someone living in the UK I think the EU holding trade with the EU as a hostage is disgraceful. I understand the EU has real concerns about rule harmonisation it wants to protect and the UK leaving the Union is going to put pressure on that. However, let us say the UK exited the EU tomorrow. What effect would this have on the rules the UK operates under and would this negatively effect the EU enough that it would make sense for them to end trade with the UK? My guess is there would be very little initial change in the law in the UK. Initially I'm guessing the UK would end the jurisdiction of the ECJ, end free labour movement of EU citizens to the UK and stop taking new legislation from the EU. However, note that on day 1 probably all of the laws effecting trade and harmonisation of rules would still most likely be in place. It would make more sense in the no-deal situation for the EU to keep the current free trade in place and introduce exceptions as the UK begins to drift from the common market rules or negotiates free-er trade agreements with other countries that would undermine the harmonisation rules.