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Some of the best art I've ever seen was sprayed on urban walls. The regular art market is hugely overrated.
Looking at that Trump mural reminded me of this brilliant Trump mural painted around the corner from my place in Melbourne: https://imgur.com/nIgsvs3

Melbourne has an absolutely amazing street art scene. I'm not sure how they managed to cultivate it, so that it isn't just mindless tagging all over the city (like my hometown).

I used to shrug off street art as a serious art form, but having spent more time with creatives recently, including several graffiti artists, I've come to really appreciate it. If a city tries to curb legitimate street art, as opposed to tagging and vandalism, then all a city will have is tagging and vandalism.

Presumably the Stormzy piece was an expression of their love for Grime music rather than an ad for the upcoming concert.
It was an ad (though the two aren't mutually exclusive I guess). It's not made very clear in the article, but SUBSET (formerly Rabbit Hole Productions) are a commercial entity - as Rabbit Hole I've seen ads by them for things like recruitment agencies and Hollywood movies.

Grey Area does appear to be a non-commercial (if self-promotional) project.

I'm also surprised the Maser Repeal mural hasn't been mentioned, as it's a similar story: this is a mural that was commissioned by a theatre in Dublin on the theatre's wall in support of the abortion referendum campaign. It was first removed due to a lack of planning permission; after they acquired proper planning permission it was later removed after a complaint by the charity regulator that it violated the theatre's stated charitable purpose and would lose them their charitable status. It finally got a third iteration on the wall of Amnesty International Ireland nearby.

Can they come up to Belfast and paint over the horrible paramilitary murals? Cheers.
"ways to re-start a cold war, number #102: antagonise the working class troops to make them want to throw molotov cocktails again..."
Painting public walls is OK as long as it's loaded with leftist propaganda
Street art reflects the zeitgeist, whatever end of the political spectrum that may be at the time.
as another commenter pointed out, there's not a lot of what you refer to as "leftist propaganda" in Belfast, so it really depends on context.

It's often been content that purports to be anti-authoritarian, so if you have a government/authority spouting rightist* (why isn't that a word?) propaganda, then yes, I guess you'll see the inverse on walls.

Waterford is way ahead of the Dubs on this one - our council actually commissions street art: http://waterfordwalls.ie/

All this wonderful art greets me on the way to the office every morning - fabulous!

Visited Waterford a couple weeks ago - really liked it! Shame it took me 5 years to visit; my friends here in Dublin (including a Waterford lad) said there wasn't much reason.

TBH the greenway alone is worth a visit. Wife and I are contemplating moving there. Next time we go I'll check out more street art.

"With their bold ongoing project, Grey Area, Irish collective SUBSET are protesting the criminalisation and censorship of street art."

That's all fine and good if you can paint fancy murals like that. My city is covered it street art, and it's all just kids boringly writing their tags.

St. Petersburg (FL) used to be like that, but business owners started working with artists, and then more and more businesses did the same.

https://stpetemuraltour.com/photo-wall/

You mean voluntary collaboration between property owners and artists, creating mutually beneficial arrangements (artists get paid to do what they love, the quality of the work improves) instead of regulation and criminalisation was the better answer? Who would have thought.

If anything the state could incentivize certain property owners to allow their alleyways or other areas to allow graffiti. Since the artists aren't going to stop... so you might as well create positive environments for them.

...Just like drugs.

I'm sorry graffiti hasn't been gentrified in your neighborhood yet. Maybe a stern TED talk might change minds.
Let's hope Dublin doesn't do something ridiculous like NYC and pass laws which fine property owners millions of dollars for cleaning up graffiti off their own property... only after selling the property to be demolished for a new development:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/12/nyregion/5pointz-graffiti...

I'm all for street art but this is getting a bit ridiculous when the gov starts deciding which property owners can and can't decide to have murals painted on the side of their buildings.

Could they have someone "vandalize" the painting as a work around? It seems like spray painting some "hate speech" might resolve the problem, might event get a stipend from the city to remove it if your play our cards right
You have to love newspeak; define vandalism as street art, because of what? Some repressed desire of the harried urban knowledge worker to strike back at the Man who forces him to live in a rabbit hutch, riding on dirty subways to get anywhere? So very Norman Mailer.

Though formalized and approved vandalism is so very millenial as well, legitimize the protest by calling it art and make a few vandals rich by painting slogans the elite find friendly. It's not a bug, it's a feature!