Tildes.net says it's invite-only and leads to a blog post about the announcement of Tildes, but you have to parse the language to understand what it is. I honestly can't stand sites that assume you know what they are all about. Just a couple of sentences describing what it is and why you should care on the main page would be nice.
It's in large bold text at the very top of the post:
If this is the first that you've heard of Tildes, you should start by reading the announcement blog post (https://blog.tildes.net/announcing-tildes) for general information about the project and its goals.
Had the same problem. Got wisps of information about it being like reddit, like HN, like etc
Most useful information I've seen so far is the previous discussion here on HN [1]
A quick summary: Ex-Reddit employee creates own version of Reddit. Upvotes intact but downvotes replaced with what looks similar to Slashdot's moderation (tag it Joke, Noise, Offtopic, Troll, Flame) in more of a downvote with a reason
This trend of people putting things on hacker news that weren't targeted at hacker news, and then hacker news readers complaining that they aren't written appropriately to target hacker news is weird to me.
If you're already following tildes' blog, the title alone is enough to know what they're announcing.
I think we as a society need to evolve to a more nuanced take on free speech where we can recognize its value as a society-wide norm while still seeing the necessity for curating discourse to build thriving communities of discussion.
If someone going to attempt to gaslight the debate at every turn and invoke "the Jews" as the central cause of the world's problems, I have no problem excluding them on a permanent basis. Whether they were trolling or genuine, they are a bad actor that harms the discourse for everyone.
I know this is the common usage of free speech, but I don't think it's good-- I would rather people call it just 'Only not illegal speech' or something. Free speech, in the original sense, is only the government's guarantee-- speech is not something that the government will write laws for.
In private society, though, it's laughable to consider that that was ever the status quo. The open free speech market is a seriously toxic thing. Who wants to be forced to have their house be a free speech zone, where someone can always shout that you're a pedophile, they screwed your mom, look here for ISIS forums-- no one in real life would tolerate that. It's just a ticking time bomb of liability, going off every other week.
In the real world, in every society, people have cultures and mores to decide what speech isn't tolerated. Some are obviously more draconian than others, but insisting that everyone regress to 'Only-not illegal speech' just seems to create such a miserable, angry world.
Regular people do care about free speech, but you can't have a platform that cares about free speech that doesn't also treat regular people and xenophobic trolls equally, in which case the former tends to chase the latter off and take over like a cancer.
Nothing stops it, that's part of the point. People should feel free to fork it and start their own site with different ideals, features, etc., they just have to open-source all their changes/updates to the code as AGPLv3 requires.
Not a single screenshot, no video introduction, no Docs/Getting Started/FAQ pages, not even a well structured explanation page of what is this project and how will affect the internet in a large scale. No vision or a generic expectation with lots of "what if". C'mon guys you spend so much time coding this thing and you threw up the presentation, that's a shame.
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[ 1.8 ms ] story [ 49.8 ms ] thread"a new link-aggregator-style community site that's starting its invite-only alpha today"
Seriously, site creators and submitters, you need to do a better job of explaining what you're talking about!
Hmmm.
Right in the header of the page it links to. Not sure what's confusing about that.
If you're asking "is it going to look more like reddit or more like Imzy", well... it's too early for that, isn't it? Ain't wrote yet.
If this is the first that you've heard of Tildes, you should start by reading the announcement blog post (https://blog.tildes.net/announcing-tildes) for general information about the project and its goals.
Most useful information I've seen so far is the previous discussion here on HN [1]
A quick summary: Ex-Reddit employee creates own version of Reddit. Upvotes intact but downvotes replaced with what looks similar to Slashdot's moderation (tag it Joke, Noise, Offtopic, Troll, Flame) in more of a downvote with a reason
Screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/qit6zPk
[1] Previous discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17103093
If you're already following tildes' blog, the title alone is enough to know what they're announcing.
But, tl;dr: it's a reddit-alike
What would stop someone from forking tildes and creating free speech version?
If someone going to attempt to gaslight the debate at every turn and invoke "the Jews" as the central cause of the world's problems, I have no problem excluding them on a permanent basis. Whether they were trolling or genuine, they are a bad actor that harms the discourse for everyone.
I know this is the common usage of free speech, but I don't think it's good-- I would rather people call it just 'Only not illegal speech' or something. Free speech, in the original sense, is only the government's guarantee-- speech is not something that the government will write laws for.
In private society, though, it's laughable to consider that that was ever the status quo. The open free speech market is a seriously toxic thing. Who wants to be forced to have their house be a free speech zone, where someone can always shout that you're a pedophile, they screwed your mom, look here for ISIS forums-- no one in real life would tolerate that. It's just a ticking time bomb of liability, going off every other week.
In the real world, in every society, people have cultures and mores to decide what speech isn't tolerated. Some are obviously more draconian than others, but insisting that everyone regress to 'Only-not illegal speech' just seems to create such a miserable, angry world.
You seem to know what open source means, so you know full well that you can fork it if you wish.
https://voat.co/
I am bummed again that there are so few "regular" people that care about free speech.