The first 2 positions I looked at randomly were for experienced resources.
- Consulting Financial Analyst (Puget Sound Energy | Bellevue, WA) -> 7-10 years of experience in finance with at least 5 years of financial planning or strategic analysis for the consulting level.
- Business Administrator (Microsoft | Redmond, WA) -> 2 – 4 years of demonstrated relevant work experience in a fast-paced and complex environment
Not sure I see the point of this product if it doesn't even filter out these positions.
Off-topic but not completely unrelated, hiring new grads is difficult. No, scratch that; employing new grads is difficult.
Enthusiasm and eagerness is valuable, but one needs to set aside an ongoing block of time for education and discussion and guidance and so on; not only do they not know what they don't know (had a CV cross my desk this week in which the new grad rated himself "guru" at C++, which is not impossible but seems very unlikely - typically at the interview, such candidates are actually what one would expect from a new-grad, and just don't realise how much they don't know and to what extent knowing the syntax isn't the same as being any good with it), but I don't know what they don't know and it's impossible for me to fully appreciate how difficult some things are to get to grips with. Sure, it took me a long time as well, but I just don't remember how long it took me to grasp various things, and that's only my experiences. They could have a completely different set of unknowns.
Placing them in the right team is hard too. They need the support and guidance of experienced people, but adding a new grad to a team generally serves to slow things down for a while; ultimately, the team and company benefits, but finding a team with a runway long enough to absorb the hit without jeopardising their own targets is not easy. Sometimes there's just no good place to insert a new grad and we have to just take the hit.
How are you getting lots of new graduates to look at these jobs?
My company is _very_ good at getting new graduates off to a really good start to their career, so I've seen all the various sites and services for finding new graduates. (Our pitch: https://www.haplo-services.com/jobs/new-graduates )
The problem with these kinds of job sites is getting enough new graduates to look at them for it to actually have an effect, and most new graduates think they need to talk to a recruitment company or just apply to the big names. :-(
We had a lot of luck sourcing candidates at career fairs from local universities, actually. They usually will head to the campus career center prior to contacting recruiting companies, but you can get hundreds of candidates (including double-digit good ones) for less than $500-1000. The signal-to-noise ratio we saw was also much, much better than you normally get from online services.
This doesn't scale well for middleware like the parent product, but it's a decent option for companies who are trying to attract talent.
Oh yes, that's one of our techniques for finding graduates.
I was just wondering about how this job board was going to do it, as "who will see this" is the key question for someone considering posting a job on it.
In case the creators are here: I typed my location (hint: not the US) and I got... nothing. I don't mean "no results" - I mean there was no indication whatsoever that my search did anything. I thought it could be hugged to death, until I tried "Seattle" and got results.
I would suggest adding a "no jobs found" message (using Firefox on Android, in case it matters)
You need to be careful if you use this in the US. As far as I know, job ads specifically targeting new grads can be seen as illegal since they may be discriminating against 40+ year olds.
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[ 3.4 ms ] story [ 44.3 ms ] thread- Consulting Financial Analyst (Puget Sound Energy | Bellevue, WA) -> 7-10 years of experience in finance with at least 5 years of financial planning or strategic analysis for the consulting level.
- Business Administrator (Microsoft | Redmond, WA) -> 2 – 4 years of demonstrated relevant work experience in a fast-paced and complex environment
Not sure I see the point of this product if it doesn't even filter out these positions.
Enthusiasm and eagerness is valuable, but one needs to set aside an ongoing block of time for education and discussion and guidance and so on; not only do they not know what they don't know (had a CV cross my desk this week in which the new grad rated himself "guru" at C++, which is not impossible but seems very unlikely - typically at the interview, such candidates are actually what one would expect from a new-grad, and just don't realise how much they don't know and to what extent knowing the syntax isn't the same as being any good with it), but I don't know what they don't know and it's impossible for me to fully appreciate how difficult some things are to get to grips with. Sure, it took me a long time as well, but I just don't remember how long it took me to grasp various things, and that's only my experiences. They could have a completely different set of unknowns.
Placing them in the right team is hard too. They need the support and guidance of experienced people, but adding a new grad to a team generally serves to slow things down for a while; ultimately, the team and company benefits, but finding a team with a runway long enough to absorb the hit without jeopardising their own targets is not easy. Sometimes there's just no good place to insert a new grad and we have to just take the hit.
Isn't something like that a requirement for entry level job these days?
My company is _very_ good at getting new graduates off to a really good start to their career, so I've seen all the various sites and services for finding new graduates. (Our pitch: https://www.haplo-services.com/jobs/new-graduates )
The problem with these kinds of job sites is getting enough new graduates to look at them for it to actually have an effect, and most new graduates think they need to talk to a recruitment company or just apply to the big names. :-(
This doesn't scale well for middleware like the parent product, but it's a decent option for companies who are trying to attract talent.
I was just wondering about how this job board was going to do it, as "who will see this" is the key question for someone considering posting a job on it.
I would suggest adding a "no jobs found" message (using Firefox on Android, in case it matters)