definitely agree about evite. surprised that other event based sites haven't taken off as well. guess is that younger crowd = facebook events and older crowd on email, outlook meeting requests and evite.
google was neither, it was just an awesome product that with word of mouth and a great partnership with yahoo/aol grew to epic proportions. it's as pg says build something people want. i would say 'need'
My main takeaway on this is that if you build something that is naturally viral, chalk it up in the pluses column for that idea. Having an idea that is inherently viral is awfully nice, especially if you're a guerilla underdog.
However, bolting on "viral" features isn't going to make your site really viral. That doesn't mean your site is a bad idea, just that you need to find different ways to get the word about your site out to your target users/customers. I think the point is that you shouldn't delude yourself, not that the only way to succeed is to build a naturally viral site.
boredguy8, that is completely far away from the truth. that's like tossing a coin up in the air and hope it lands heads. what if you could predict, quantify and know what it would do?
I think there's a lot more to it than that. As a simple example, you can have the best solitaire game out there and every one of your users may love it, but there is nothing viral about that. Even if you get a great review on a blog and a million users download it after reading the review, it's still not viral. It's just popular. It doesn't have a built-in mechanism for spreading from one user to another. You can argue that it goes viral by users recommending it to other users, but that requires active behavior from the user that has nothing to do with using the game.
Now if you take a multi-player game where I have to send out an invite to another user to play, that's viral. It's built into the game. That's why a game like Scrabulous can spread so quickly within Facebook (and that's how I was introduced to it).
There is another comment here that Google is viral. I think that's another example of popular, not viral. I can use Google 100 times a day to search, but there is nothing that I'm doing that introduces Google to other users unless I just actively send them an email. Hotmail, on the other hand, seems more viral to me because, as a user, I'm using it just to send mail, but I'm passively promoting it to every person I send an email to because there is a link in the message -- I don't need to do anything other than just use the product for its intended purpose for it to be viral. That won't happen with Google.
Some might argue that some videos are viral even though the user has to actively pass the link on to someone else, but I don't think that's how a site or an application becomes viral. Also, most content goes viral because it's posted a relatively small number of times to sites with relatively large numbers of visitors (Digg, for example).
I may be off-track here as far as what most people consider viral, but I get the sense that in general, to be viral, the increase in users has to be either from passive behavior of existing users (like Hotmail) or because there is a real benefit to an existing user by introducing new users (like Scrabulous or even Facebook in general). Maybe the term "viral" has been so overused that it is now synonymous with "popular". If that's the case, then you can ignore this entire reply ;-)
i think viral is so overused it could be called the internet.
there are many things out there considering to be viral since they are growing. bottom line: who cares. i think if your site/product is good it should grow (grows better with math/analytics) and stick around (if you continually improve it).
"Viral marketing has quickly achieved recognition because of a handful of high-profile examples: Marketers demonstrated that on shoestring budgets they could motivate millions. They did so by leveraging customer-to-customer communication to increase sales, brand awareness, and market coverage.
To date, however, marketers have had difficulty reproducing the success of a handful of viral campaigns, such as 'The Blair Witch Project,' HotMail, and the 'Dancing Baby.'"
Viral marketing requires things achieve popularity through word-of-mouth replication, not big-budget marketing. So if my solitaire gets 20 good reviews that get 20 downloads each, and spawns 20 more good reviews, &c., it is virally successful. You might not like that that's how the term is used, but you're about 7 years too late.
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However, bolting on "viral" features isn't going to make your site really viral. That doesn't mean your site is a bad idea, just that you need to find different ways to get the word about your site out to your target users/customers. I think the point is that you shouldn't delude yourself, not that the only way to succeed is to build a naturally viral site.
Now if you take a multi-player game where I have to send out an invite to another user to play, that's viral. It's built into the game. That's why a game like Scrabulous can spread so quickly within Facebook (and that's how I was introduced to it).
There is another comment here that Google is viral. I think that's another example of popular, not viral. I can use Google 100 times a day to search, but there is nothing that I'm doing that introduces Google to other users unless I just actively send them an email. Hotmail, on the other hand, seems more viral to me because, as a user, I'm using it just to send mail, but I'm passively promoting it to every person I send an email to because there is a link in the message -- I don't need to do anything other than just use the product for its intended purpose for it to be viral. That won't happen with Google.
Some might argue that some videos are viral even though the user has to actively pass the link on to someone else, but I don't think that's how a site or an application becomes viral. Also, most content goes viral because it's posted a relatively small number of times to sites with relatively large numbers of visitors (Digg, for example).
I may be off-track here as far as what most people consider viral, but I get the sense that in general, to be viral, the increase in users has to be either from passive behavior of existing users (like Hotmail) or because there is a real benefit to an existing user by introducing new users (like Scrabulous or even Facebook in general). Maybe the term "viral" has been so overused that it is now synonymous with "popular". If that's the case, then you can ignore this entire reply ;-)
i think viral is so overused it could be called the internet.
there are many things out there considering to be viral since they are growing. bottom line: who cares. i think if your site/product is good it should grow (grows better with math/analytics) and stick around (if you continually improve it).
To date, however, marketers have had difficulty reproducing the success of a handful of viral campaigns, such as 'The Blair Witch Project,' HotMail, and the 'Dancing Baby.'"
Viral marketing requires things achieve popularity through word-of-mouth replication, not big-budget marketing. So if my solitaire gets 20 good reviews that get 20 downloads each, and spawns 20 more good reviews, &c., it is virally successful. You might not like that that's how the term is used, but you're about 7 years too late.
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