Wow, it actually produced something kind of reasonable for the least reasonable input I could come up with. I present "In the Hall of the Dracula Mountain King" https://rave.dj/1jK2s4-jAt3meg
Seems to be pretty awesome. I tested out two instrumental bits in Hardwell - Spaceman and SHM - Greyhound and found that the algorithm had some issues with the low end clashing on mixing between the songs https://rave.dj/qP-eYlelx75GjQ Though it leveled out after a few seconds. Would love to know more about how it works!
- Really simple and intuitive start. I created my first mashup within first 2 minutes and at all times knew exactly what I was doing
- Inbuilt virality. People will show off their produced mixes to their friends and on social media.
- Actually solves a pain point. How many of us have tried mixing songs and gave up? This gives a sense of creativity while taking care of all the complexity.
Even though I don't know how they'll monetize this, it seems a really well thought out product.
I tried to give it a challenge, mixing two completely different genres of music – medieval with rap. Amazingly the medieval tune followed the beat of the rap song.
> Even though I don't know how they'll monetize this, it seems a really well thought out product.
Depending on how you define product, this is a major show stopper. I'd say a product can't be called well thought out, if it doesn't have monetization thought out from the start. Although there is always advertizing, I guess..
There are currently 3 major DJ software products - Serato, Rekordbox and Traktor - the ability to quickly throw together a few different tracks into a mashup could be a nice killer feature for one of them to acquire.
Or, playout software for a bar - queue up a load of music of a similar genre and have an automix created.
Indeed - but if you want to be acqui-hired you go for one of the commercial offerings.
As an aside, Mixxx is an awesome piece of software, it's not quite as slick as Serato et al, but it works fantastically if your controller is suitably mapped, and is timecode vinyl agnostic which is a nice plus.
- licensing will be difficult without a paywall, I'm pretty sure this site is "illegal"
- there is no way to keep tweaking manually to correct bad sounding parts etc, which limits usefulness
As it happens I work on a similar iphone app called Pacemaker, which solves both of these problems (using spotify login and a bunch of edit tools, respectively)
Pretty interesting. I used to be heavily into the mashup scene, even going so far as to make mashup.fm (another turntable/plug.dj clone). Here's some of my favorite classical mashups alongside the rave.dj version:
This was the easiest as it's just a vocal track laid onto a beat, but it really jumps the tracks around a ton, seemingly randomly. It at least doesn't jump mid-measure though and fits with the beat.
The Neil C original is a classic, and really fits two songs together that don't belong near each other. Rave plays the intros in sequential order, with vocals overlapping all over. They really need a central channel filter to see if they can pop the vocals out from the instrumentals. This is really a tuesday-surprise lunchroom casserole of a mashup, with a rather abrupt ending.
This one really works because of some of the more complex editing on Isosine's part. The rave one is a disaster. Feels like you're standing in between two parties that are blasting two jams, that just happened to have their drops/choruses line up.
This is a personal favorite, and I think it works because of how long the Hey Jude intro is. It really means you forget about Kanye completely until he jumps in. It works because of how slow of a buildup Hey Jude is. The Rave version has no nuance here. They speed up Hey Jude, up-pitching it in the process and making it sound like Raffi or some other child entertainer. They down pitch Kanye, making him seem like some gangsta thug. It really doesn't work at all.
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I really want this to become better, but I feel like it needs to be trained more tricks (vocal separation for one) to really be worth it. Also minor QOL improvement would be to allow you to preview tracks before you add them to the mix. Hard to find one that's a good audio only rip of a song sometimes.
Tried to use some generic pop songs ( https://rave.dj/BtHuRn1-lAnDEQ - [madonna - hung up] & [ timbaland - the way i are ]) and result is not bad at all, a bit cacophonous in some parts, but other than that it's [the smashup] quite good!
Although the BPM detection usually works, It seems to have trouble getting the songs synced in phrase - 2nd tracks come in starting on the 3rd bar or something.
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I tested - Run DMC - It's like that vs Funky Town.
https://rave.dj/KEmdgiqJTerSEg
Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson & The Wurzels...
Scream Harvester: https://rave.dj/talVuJvYAn6zbA
- Really simple and intuitive start. I created my first mashup within first 2 minutes and at all times knew exactly what I was doing
- Inbuilt virality. People will show off their produced mixes to their friends and on social media.
- Actually solves a pain point. How many of us have tried mixing songs and gave up? This gives a sense of creativity while taking care of all the complexity.
Even though I don't know how they'll monetize this, it seems a really well thought out product.
Here is my first try: Disclosure - Bang That + The XX - On Hold = Hold That
https://rave.dj/1F1p4ZS9ipWmYA
https://rave.dj/h3o1s4nrg5d2sQ
Depending on how you define product, this is a major show stopper. I'd say a product can't be called well thought out, if it doesn't have monetization thought out from the start. Although there is always advertizing, I guess..
But very nice tool/toy nonetheless!
There are currently 3 major DJ software products - Serato, Rekordbox and Traktor - the ability to quickly throw together a few different tracks into a mashup could be a nice killer feature for one of them to acquire.
Or, playout software for a bar - queue up a load of music of a similar genre and have an automix created.
There's also MIXXX which is open source:
https://www.mixxx.org/
As an aside, Mixxx is an awesome piece of software, it's not quite as slick as Serato et al, but it works fantastically if your controller is suitably mapped, and is timecode vinyl agnostic which is a nice plus.
- licensing will be difficult without a paywall, I'm pretty sure this site is "illegal"
- there is no way to keep tweaking manually to correct bad sounding parts etc, which limits usefulness
As it happens I work on a similar iphone app called Pacemaker, which solves both of these problems (using spotify login and a bunch of edit tools, respectively)
Thomas the Tank Engine vs Biggie Smalls
Original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETfiUYij5UE
Rave.dj: https://rave.dj/XUBqv8IsZPVZMQ
This was the easiest as it's just a vocal track laid onto a beat, but it really jumps the tracks around a ton, seemingly randomly. It at least doesn't jump mid-measure though and fits with the beat.
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Modest Mouth (Modest Mouse vs Smashmouth)
Original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEmJH7JsKgM
Rave.dj: https://rave.dj/gUb_lU_PrHBdKA
The Neil C original is a classic, and really fits two songs together that don't belong near each other. Rave plays the intros in sequential order, with vocals overlapping all over. They really need a central channel filter to see if they can pop the vocals out from the instrumentals. This is really a tuesday-surprise lunchroom casserole of a mashup, with a rather abrupt ending.
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Korn vs Taylor Swift
Original: https://soundcloud.com/user-490703809/we-are-coming-undone-k...
Rave.dj: https://rave.dj/usdGtcmoNJeItg
This one really works because of some of the more complex editing on Isosine's part. The rave one is a disaster. Feels like you're standing in between two parties that are blasting two jams, that just happened to have their drops/choruses line up.
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Kanye West vs The Beatles
Original: http://mashup.fm/media/Hey_Jude_We_Major_More_Popular_than_J...
Rave.dj: https://rave.dj/ZcRpPLK6QZEvZA
This is a personal favorite, and I think it works because of how long the Hey Jude intro is. It really means you forget about Kanye completely until he jumps in. It works because of how slow of a buildup Hey Jude is. The Rave version has no nuance here. They speed up Hey Jude, up-pitching it in the process and making it sound like Raffi or some other child entertainer. They down pitch Kanye, making him seem like some gangsta thug. It really doesn't work at all.
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I really want this to become better, but I feel like it needs to be trained more tricks (vocal separation for one) to really be worth it. Also minor QOL improvement would be to allow you to preview tracks before you add them to the mix. Hard to find one that's a good audio only rip of a song sometimes.
rave.dj's version isn't great https://rave.dj/N22l-_WXbqseJQ
Original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5knIIyKpSK4
Rave.dj: https://rave.dj/moZFRBY95T53zA
Very pleased with the result.
https://rave.dj/ULx2nBaldJ9ocw
Nasum & Napalm Death: Face the Children
[0]: https://rave.dj/yjDMS4Pu0a81ZA (Napalm Death: Suffer the Children vs. Nasum: The Masked Face)
https://rave.dj/E_SszLqaCgUrgg
Have you considered using BunnyCDN instead of Stackpath for the CDN? It'll probably be much cheaper.
Daft Punk + Justice: https://rave.dj/Lpr1oWauUIIeaA
Gui13
https://rave.dj/iIeQ-Bx8mnFDWQ
Chrome 68.0.3440.106 on an iMac Pro.
All fine now.
https://rave.dj/fR61DJEv2DP4Tw
DJ AssultPink - Ass ' n ' TT
Although the BPM detection usually works, It seems to have trouble getting the songs synced in phrase - 2nd tracks come in starting on the 3rd bar or something.
https://rave.dj/wpsuhBh9kc5OZA
Here's the Killers with Eminem: https://rave.dj/3OYTG3uFFUrMIg
EDIT: 4 hours remaining... hmmm.. feeding it a 400 track playlist probably wasn't a good idea
Du By The Hast https://rave.dj/sN4EnkKdPfj-ow