It looks like many of videos on Reddit are re-uploads from YouTube or other websites. It would be interesting to see how they'll deal with copyright laws.
>Just like there is a youtube generation (grew up on youtube) there is a reddit generation in the works.
I'm not sure "in the works" is correct.
Although they were founded around the same time, reddit is older as a social media platform than YouTube. I'd say the reddit demographic is those around ~30 years old, give or take a few years. I don't think young people/teenagers use it as a "go to" (like I do).
All this is to say, I'm not sure if there's a growth story here. My bet would be on stagnation.
> I don't think young people/teenagers use it as a "go to" (like I do).
I was a bit surprised to hear advertising for "reddit the site" towards a younger audience.. but there was plenty of it during the recent counter-strike major league event in London. Many times throughout the programme they "organically" discussed how everyone wants to be at the top of reddit, how it is the place you wanna be, etc. They obviously took money for it. I'd link videos, but the faceittv twitch channel is subscribers only. I would not be surprised if they are marketing in similar ways for other e-sports.
Aside, but another counter-strike event (eleague iirc) recently had an actual uniformed army officer handing out trophy to the winners. That I found truly distasteful.
That said, my bet for reddit is also on stagnation.
Wiht the new user interface, Reddit is trying really hard to go the way of Digg. I used to browse it on my phone but the popups asking me to install their app block my screen. And no-- no fucking way I am going to install an app to view a webpage.
Wasn’t digg’s issue power users or something? Reddit was and can never be that bad simply due to subreddits. I think a more apt comparison is simply facebook and twitter and instagram: make the UX shitty to promote ads.
> Reddit was and can never be that bad simply due to subreddits.
Vote manipulation on reddit in 2018 is way worse than vote manipulation on Digg ever was. Due to the centralized categories of Digg, the userbase was unable to hide away from content they didn't like and that brought the community together to collectively take part in rejecting the influencers. On reddit, there isn't that same sense of a cohesive single community. In the past, there might have been a sort of collective identity of "redditors", but that's gone away as the site has grown. Nobody says, "Oh yeah, I go on reddit" anymore, they say that they are are active on a particular sub.
I wonder if reddit could have done anything differently to maintain that "redditor" identity among their userbase, is it just a function of their growth? I think it's mostly just their growth, but they accelerated it by not being more careful with what subreddits were defaults and their responsibility to curate them. I remember when the frontpage of reddit transitioned from generally being longform content, to generally being shitty image-macro memes. I also remember when /r/politics used to be a relatively balanced source of news.
If you do something that makes your happy and heavy users rescind from being globally active to just being active in their tiny niche subreddit, you can't expect your global sense of community to be maintained.
I guess in the subreddits I visit, the prospect of vote manipulation doesn’t really matter because the content is evidently good.
The shared subreddits are indeed trash. I wonder if banning commonly astroturfed topics would help and directing people to moderated subreddits for that content. As a long time redditor (since 2007 or so), the identity has been decohering (or transforming) since the beginning and at this point I don’t see much of value left to lose. The culture centers around memes (I don’t mean this in a pejorative sense), not shared values or interests.
A common joke used to be: reddit’s been going downhill since they added comments. Now I doubt most remember at one point it lacked them. At this point I just view comments bemoanings its fresh demise as reactionary: reddit’s not going anywhere, and you can’t change its direction at all. It’s just not easy accepting the direction it is going.
I think the main issue is when they just completely revamped digg in a way that destroyed the community driven nature of the website - they tried to "personalize the front page to each user" or something like that. But people didn't want a personalized news feed, they just wanted the community, which the updates really screwed up.
I think I logged into the "new digg" 3 or 4 times before completely abandoning it for reddit, and never looking back - this was as a daily user of several years at the time.
I really dislike the "new reddit" as well - if they hadn't kept the option to use their old site, I would have stopped using reddit too.
Subreddits don't help when there are "powermods" who moderate hundreds of large subreddits and coordinate offsite to run them all in the same way. They are basically Digg's power users but hidden from most normal folks on the site who don't go digging.
Can't it? Reddit has somehow become a parody of itself where most posts in most subs follow the exact same karma-chasing pattern.
Which leaves a few gems and the draconianly moderated subs like /r/science etc.
Frankly it got to be far to much work to get some signal in with the noise. The new UI and needing to stick with old.reddit.com is just icing on the cake.
Yeah agreed. Digg was sooo good too. Old reddit users are very unaccepting of the new style. And I believe the main reason is because they cant find most of the usual options available on old.reddit.com
Yeah. When Reddit introduced /r/all filters, I started exclusively browsing it using /r/all but filtering all the trash subreddits. There's a lot of frontpage trash to get rid of, but once it's gone, it leads to pretty good discovery.
That filter is inexplicably gone in the new version, even though it's a feature that's less than 2 years old ...
The subreddits still get filtered, so I go on old.r to add new entries (I'm up to over a hundred). If this goes away, I'll just stop regular visits. Not worth the hassle.
Well once they started helpfully prefiltering, I hiked. The writing was on the wall. Its a shame voat was already entrenched by edgelords and under constant ddos. I think a new clone with better privacy filters would do well.
I think saying "the writing was on the wall" is a bit weird. People have been claiming Reddit going the way of Digg for as long as it's existed. It's bound to happen at some point... death is an inevitable part of life, even of a website's / company's life. You and I are bound to die at some point, the writing is on the wall, yknow?
But yeah, I really miss Reddit not being full of vile shit. Does seem to be somewhat inevitable when a community grows. And the site has grown massively. Which means all the subreddits that existed back then grew massively. So new ones are created, and for a while those don't suck as much... but they grow as a function of the site's growth. And the bigger the site, the faster "fresh new subreddits" grow, and end up being atrocious.
There is a clone of Reddit that I've been using for 2 months that reminds me of a 2008-era Reddit. Its called Tildes and is run by a former Reddit admin. https://tildes.net/
They're in beta mode right now, I have a few invites if anyone is interested.
I'm interested in checking it out, as long as we're not talking about the usual "reddit banned me for hating muslims" kind of Reddit alternative (which this doesn't seem to be, from what I can gather). Email on my profile.
It's just more of the sick culture of metric-driven "engagement" in our industry. Unfortunately, tricks like these tend to work, which is why they're done.
> Anyone have any ideas on what could cause a mass shift?
I have a few, but basically if you keep the UI simple, support multiple communication paradigms (e.g. not just reddit/hn style, but also live optionally-threaded conversations, more forum-like approaches, blogs+comments, microblogging, etc), and make it highly configurable (e.g. voting rules, moderation rules, threading rules, etc) I think people will come running. Bonus points if it's easily self-hostable, can be federated, can be encrypted, and/or can self-delete/rollover old messages.
The reddit website on mobile has gone from incompetent to extremely embarrassing. If I ever worked there, I would be embarrassed to put Reddit on my resume right now.
I don't really understand how a site worth billions has such bad programmers. Everything about it is bad. It's slow, it crashes frequently, basic things go missing like the image you were trying to view, you frequently get "whoops that page no longer exists" simply reopening your browser on a thread you were viewing the previous day.
But go to the desktop version, and it all works fine.
They even inexplicably implemented AMP, even though the whole point of the site is up-to-date comments, not a cached one sitting on google.
The only competent part of their team seems to be ops, as it has finally stopped falling over.
I think it’s fair. If the management is incompetent and keeps rushing programmers to build poorly thought out features, they’re also usually unable to evaluate the quality. The programmers on the other hand know exactly how bad the things are that they’re building and if they sign their name and say “I built this!” then it’s on them.
Maybe I’ve just worked for companies where developers have a lot of say in what and how gets built.
> Maybe I’ve just worked for companies where developers have a lot of say in what and how gets built.
that's probably closer to the truth.
if you're large enough to have multiple teams of multiple people, in most cases, they don't all have a full view of what's going on (priorities, roadmap, feedback, etc). even if someone said "I ain't doing this!" and quits, there's no real impact. If an entire team dug in their heels on something, that might have influence, but you're getting to a situation that doesn't often happen.
At my current company we have 4-5 independent teams and the PMs talk among themselves and come up with the roadmap, but then they bring it to their teams and there are multiple opportunities for devs to comment or raise any objections. It was similar at my previous, much smaller company.
Throwing the keyboard across the room and yelling "I QUIT!" is one way to give feedback to the management, but usually I've found that raising your hand and bringing concerns about performance or stability is enough to get people to listen since they also want to build a great product.
Perhaps they want an unpleasant mobile web view, to herd more people towards the blessed app?
There's only a few ways to monetize a site like this, and selling sensor, identity, and behavioral data from phones is one of them. Maximizing their bean count would dictate not leaving that money on the table.
What are some things you can collect from a mobile app (without asking for outrageous permissions and uploading user’s contacts, etc) that you cant collect on a web app?
Here is the permission list from the Play store. There's a number of questionable items on here that are not needed to display stories and comments.
This app has access to:
Identity
find accounts on the device
add or remove accounts
Contacts
find accounts on the device
Location
approximate location (network-based)
Photos/Media/Files
read the contents of your USB storage
modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
Storage
read the contents of your USB storage
modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
Device & app history
read sensitive log data
Other
receive data from Internet
view network connections
create accounts and set passwords
full network access
read sync settings
draw over other apps
use accounts on the device
prevent device from sleeping
toggle sync on and off
install shortcuts
view network connections
create accounts and set passwords
full network access
read sync settings
use accounts on the device
prevent device from sleeping
toggle sync on and off
My two main annoyances with the mobile web app are:
1. The annoying popup that comes up every other click asking you to install the iOS app
2. If you are not logged in and accidentally click the comment button it brings up the login modal. After dismissing the modal, if you close the comment box, it brings up the login modal again. I'm gonna assume this one is a bug.
Other than those two issues, I think it's a great mobile web app, especially when you consider just how terrible most web apps are.
If you want to view Reddit on mobile, I strongly recommend using an unofficial app, which doesn't have the UX antipatterns. On iOS in particular, Apollo is amazing.
Or just stop supporting that kind of thing and browse elsewhere. Reddit is hardly the best forum for anything anymore. If you make a vacuum it will be filled elsewhere.
On the contrary I use an app called Slide to view reddit. It's open source, add free and I personally think it solved all the qualms I held especially against the redesign.
Is there a firefox (mobile compatible) extension that blocks these annoying popups and messages? Because if there isn't I have found my weekend side project.
The marketing on reddit is what gets me. Aside from the fact that reddit video is terrible.. if you spend enough time on reddit (which, sadly, I do) you start to see patterns emerging. These have gotten more and more blatant over the past few years to the point where it is ruining a lot of the larger subs. The particular case i'm thinking of is when the movie "IT" came out recently. There was so much guerrilla marketing everywhere it was just a real pain in the ass to browse around.
In general though it goes like this:
"TIL XXX did YYY" - fairly innocuous postings about a movie, game, product, or company seemingly out of the blue, a few weeks/months before anything happens (in the case of IT there was a load of stuff about Tim Curry or Stephen King a long time before any real announcement the movie would be releasing soon)
"XXX has rumoured to release a YYY v2" - sparked discussion about the possible launch of something, be it a movie, game, etc.
*maybe a few more TILs/related content/memes digging up old screenshots of said movie, game, etc.*
"XXX has released YYY" - a hugely voted post which gains a lot of visibility very quickly
(depending on the level of marketing)
*Floods of memes relating directly to XXX or YYY which don't usually look like fan content*
maybe i'm being overly paranoid, but there seems to be a definite trait in my head. Other than the occasional self-congratulatory Medium post, HN luckily doesn't seem to be falling to the same fate (HN funded incubators aside, which is fine). I guess thanks largely in part to the mods here. Gj dang!
These days the marketing game includes faking organic growth. Music artists do it all the time. Here's an example: https://dimelovi.com/#
From the page:
> We at Dimelo VI offer a complete set of marketing product and creative services focus on you, the artist as a brand and your fans. You the artist, take care of the stage and your music and we take care of the rest.
> Not only we work on the artist development, we also work directly with fans to create a big impact on the social engagement of the artist. Making the Fans Closer to the artist is the key to make a hit go viral and make the best ROI.
Translation: We have the means to increase exposure for you, the product, through popular channels. Tangibly that means shill accounts on Reddit, YouTube, probably HN, Instagram, etc.
Before I deleted my reddit account (10 years old), I would regularly get private messages about getting paid for shilling.
It's a real problem and it's totally affecting how I interact with the internet. Is this really a group of people excited about something? Or am I being fooled?
And it's fair to ask what the difference is, but regardless of the answer it's also fair to have a stance on the principle. For me, don't lie to me to get me into your music/movie/game/whatever. I will actively avoid things being marketed like that.
Did you have wicked reddit karma? I have maybe 50k combined on an 11 year old account, and I've never received such a message. I wonder if it had to do with your previous posting history or subreddits you frequented.
I did an analysis of score/title trends a month ago and found that there really isn't a trend per se even among the biggest subreddits in terms of post performance and post titles, but selection bias can be hard to overcome: https://minimaxir.com/2018/09/modeling-link-aggregators/
That said, I haven't been a fan of Reddit's Ad Units, which feel very /r/fellowkids ironically.
Any community with anything to do with media is going to have completely organic hype posts, just because real people are actually excited for the thing to come out.
For almost a year, every second post was "I just watched movie XYZ, it's great, you should watch it streaming on Netflix now".
Every single post had that "Netflix" on the end.
Now in the official [Discussion] Thread for any new release whatsoever there are hundreds and hundreds of comments that follow this structure almost to the letter:
"Based on all the criticism online I really went into this not sure what to expect, but actually, I was pleasantly surprised, this movie is really fun with great character development, great action and cinematography to leave you gasping. You should see this in theaters. Highly recommend this movie."
Not only that but almost once every two week a random poster / trailer for a film is released and it just shoots up to the top of r/all with thousands of upvotes.
Then the movie flops because it had no real interest.
Maybe its the power of memes, but as someone who just browses the r/all once in a while I find it baffling how many weird movies just happen to prop up alongside international news and cute puppy gifs.
Yep, absolutely. The number of people buying upvotes is so transparent when you think for even 5 minutes, but of course Reddit are not going to stop it because it's good for them.
I'm actually baffled at how bad reddit's native video player is. For a core part of the browsing experience, it is truly an embarrassment.
Here are the behaviors that I deal with on a regular basis:
(i) On mobile, I simply cannot view a native reddit video in landscape. When I turn my phone to landscape, it plays ~3 seconds of the video and then pauses. I hit the play button to continue, and it plays ~3 seconds of the video then pauses. Repeat ad infinitum. To clarify, this is not a buffering issue, as the video always plays when I hit the play button again.
(ii) On my mobile and laptop, their video buffering experiences holes in the buffer. It will be buffering, and after a certain point a gap is created between two buffered sections of video. When the video player reaches this gap, it is legitimately not buffered and stops playing.
(iii) Moving forward with the previous scenario, once it reaches this hole in the buffered video and stops playing, the playback stalls. I can sit there for minutes and it will not continue. I have to drag the slider backwards a few seconds, which will restart the playback/buffering process and then it works fine.
I never understood why Reddit didn't simply acqui-hire one of the good 3rd party Reddit apps.
All of them are significantly better than their proprietary app.
Since most of these apps are single person efforts, a few million should be good enough right ? I can't see that putting a big dent into Reddit's pockets.
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[ 3.3 ms ] story [ 121 ms ] threadI think that's important to emphasize. Reddit itself has way way more views than this per month.
At least, as a workaround, you can replace `reddit` in the link with `vrddit` and it'll link to a third party player
https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/9l3jdc/when_yo...
becomes
https://www.vrddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/9l3jdc/when_yo...
I fucking hate reddit
Reddit is where most people of certain demographics spend their time during day.
It will only grow from here.
Just like there is a youtube generation (grew up on youtube) there is a reddit generation in the works.
I'm not sure "in the works" is correct.
Although they were founded around the same time, reddit is older as a social media platform than YouTube. I'd say the reddit demographic is those around ~30 years old, give or take a few years. I don't think young people/teenagers use it as a "go to" (like I do).
All this is to say, I'm not sure if there's a growth story here. My bet would be on stagnation.
I was a bit surprised to hear advertising for "reddit the site" towards a younger audience.. but there was plenty of it during the recent counter-strike major league event in London. Many times throughout the programme they "organically" discussed how everyone wants to be at the top of reddit, how it is the place you wanna be, etc. They obviously took money for it. I'd link videos, but the faceittv twitch channel is subscribers only. I would not be surprised if they are marketing in similar ways for other e-sports.
Aside, but another counter-strike event (eleague iirc) recently had an actual uniformed army officer handing out trophy to the winners. That I found truly distasteful.
That said, my bet for reddit is also on stagnation.
Vote manipulation on reddit in 2018 is way worse than vote manipulation on Digg ever was. Due to the centralized categories of Digg, the userbase was unable to hide away from content they didn't like and that brought the community together to collectively take part in rejecting the influencers. On reddit, there isn't that same sense of a cohesive single community. In the past, there might have been a sort of collective identity of "redditors", but that's gone away as the site has grown. Nobody says, "Oh yeah, I go on reddit" anymore, they say that they are are active on a particular sub.
I wonder if reddit could have done anything differently to maintain that "redditor" identity among their userbase, is it just a function of their growth? I think it's mostly just their growth, but they accelerated it by not being more careful with what subreddits were defaults and their responsibility to curate them. I remember when the frontpage of reddit transitioned from generally being longform content, to generally being shitty image-macro memes. I also remember when /r/politics used to be a relatively balanced source of news.
If you do something that makes your happy and heavy users rescind from being globally active to just being active in their tiny niche subreddit, you can't expect your global sense of community to be maintained.
The shared subreddits are indeed trash. I wonder if banning commonly astroturfed topics would help and directing people to moderated subreddits for that content. As a long time redditor (since 2007 or so), the identity has been decohering (or transforming) since the beginning and at this point I don’t see much of value left to lose. The culture centers around memes (I don’t mean this in a pejorative sense), not shared values or interests.
A common joke used to be: reddit’s been going downhill since they added comments. Now I doubt most remember at one point it lacked them. At this point I just view comments bemoanings its fresh demise as reactionary: reddit’s not going anywhere, and you can’t change its direction at all. It’s just not easy accepting the direction it is going.
I think I logged into the "new digg" 3 or 4 times before completely abandoning it for reddit, and never looking back - this was as a daily user of several years at the time.
I really dislike the "new reddit" as well - if they hadn't kept the option to use their old site, I would have stopped using reddit too.
Which leaves a few gems and the draconianly moderated subs like /r/science etc.
Frankly it got to be far to much work to get some signal in with the noise. The new UI and needing to stick with old.reddit.com is just icing on the cake.
That filter is inexplicably gone in the new version, even though it's a feature that's less than 2 years old ...
The subreddits still get filtered, so I go on old.r to add new entries (I'm up to over a hundred). If this goes away, I'll just stop regular visits. Not worth the hassle.
But yeah, I really miss Reddit not being full of vile shit. Does seem to be somewhat inevitable when a community grows. And the site has grown massively. Which means all the subreddits that existed back then grew massively. So new ones are created, and for a while those don't suck as much... but they grow as a function of the site's growth. And the bigger the site, the faster "fresh new subreddits" grow, and end up being atrocious.
They're in beta mode right now, I have a few invites if anyone is interested.
Really poor form.
Thankfully, 3rd party reddit clients aren't hobbled... Yet.
Replacing it with a similar site seems as likely as replacing YouTube.
Anyone have any ideas on what could cause a mass shift?
I have a few, but basically if you keep the UI simple, support multiple communication paradigms (e.g. not just reddit/hn style, but also live optionally-threaded conversations, more forum-like approaches, blogs+comments, microblogging, etc), and make it highly configurable (e.g. voting rules, moderation rules, threading rules, etc) I think people will come running. Bonus points if it's easily self-hostable, can be federated, can be encrypted, and/or can self-delete/rollover old messages.
I don't really understand how a site worth billions has such bad programmers. Everything about it is bad. It's slow, it crashes frequently, basic things go missing like the image you were trying to view, you frequently get "whoops that page no longer exists" simply reopening your browser on a thread you were viewing the previous day.
But go to the desktop version, and it all works fine.
They even inexplicably implemented AMP, even though the whole point of the site is up-to-date comments, not a cached one sitting on google.
The only competent part of their team seems to be ops, as it has finally stopped falling over.
Even that I'd disagree with. I still get "You broke reddit!" screens every few days or so
Maybe I’ve just worked for companies where developers have a lot of say in what and how gets built.
that's probably closer to the truth.
if you're large enough to have multiple teams of multiple people, in most cases, they don't all have a full view of what's going on (priorities, roadmap, feedback, etc). even if someone said "I ain't doing this!" and quits, there's no real impact. If an entire team dug in their heels on something, that might have influence, but you're getting to a situation that doesn't often happen.
Throwing the keyboard across the room and yelling "I QUIT!" is one way to give feedback to the management, but usually I've found that raising your hand and bringing concerns about performance or stability is enough to get people to listen since they also want to build a great product.
Look at the bottom of the screen here: https://imgur.com/a/n59XcKQ
The "Open Reddit App" button covers a large portion of the "Next >" button. Argh.
There's only a few ways to monetize a site like this, and selling sensor, identity, and behavioral data from phones is one of them. Maximizing their bean count would dictate not leaving that money on the table.
1. The annoying popup that comes up every other click asking you to install the iOS app
2. If you are not logged in and accidentally click the comment button it brings up the login modal. After dismissing the modal, if you close the comment box, it brings up the login modal again. I'm gonna assume this one is a bug.
Other than those two issues, I think it's a great mobile web app, especially when you consider just how terrible most web apps are.
eg https://www.reddit.com/r/backpacking vs https://i.reddit.com/r/backpacking
Helpful for bookmarks.
https://github.com/ccrama/Slide
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/old-reddit-redirec...
edits: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/old-reddit-re... just redirects to old subdomain, it doesn't block the annoying messages.
In general though it goes like this:
maybe i'm being overly paranoid, but there seems to be a definite trait in my head. Other than the occasional self-congratulatory Medium post, HN luckily doesn't seem to be falling to the same fate (HN funded incubators aside, which is fine). I guess thanks largely in part to the mods here. Gj dang!From the page:
> We at Dimelo VI offer a complete set of marketing product and creative services focus on you, the artist as a brand and your fans. You the artist, take care of the stage and your music and we take care of the rest.
> Not only we work on the artist development, we also work directly with fans to create a big impact on the social engagement of the artist. Making the Fans Closer to the artist is the key to make a hit go viral and make the best ROI.
Translation: We have the means to increase exposure for you, the product, through popular channels. Tangibly that means shill accounts on Reddit, YouTube, probably HN, Instagram, etc.
Before I deleted my reddit account (10 years old), I would regularly get private messages about getting paid for shilling.
It's a real problem and it's totally affecting how I interact with the internet. Is this really a group of people excited about something? Or am I being fooled?
And it's fair to ask what the difference is, but regardless of the answer it's also fair to have a stance on the principle. For me, don't lie to me to get me into your music/movie/game/whatever. I will actively avoid things being marketed like that.
That said, I haven't been a fan of Reddit's Ad Units, which feel very /r/fellowkids ironically.
For almost a year, every second post was "I just watched movie XYZ, it's great, you should watch it streaming on Netflix now".
Every single post had that "Netflix" on the end.
Now in the official [Discussion] Thread for any new release whatsoever there are hundreds and hundreds of comments that follow this structure almost to the letter:
"Based on all the criticism online I really went into this not sure what to expect, but actually, I was pleasantly surprised, this movie is really fun with great character development, great action and cinematography to leave you gasping. You should see this in theaters. Highly recommend this movie."
Then the movie flops because it had no real interest.
Here is an example: https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/8t40nu/offical_post...
55,000+ upvotes which is higher than anything I can see in r/all at this moment.
Yet the movie has only 23 review on RT, and I can't find a single source of gross box office release.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_man_who_killed_hitler_a...
Maybe its the power of memes, but as someone who just browses the r/all once in a while I find it baffling how many weird movies just happen to prop up alongside international news and cute puppy gifs.
If you upload to reddit, please use imgur or another service!
Here are the behaviors that I deal with on a regular basis:
(i) On mobile, I simply cannot view a native reddit video in landscape. When I turn my phone to landscape, it plays ~3 seconds of the video and then pauses. I hit the play button to continue, and it plays ~3 seconds of the video then pauses. Repeat ad infinitum. To clarify, this is not a buffering issue, as the video always plays when I hit the play button again.
(ii) On my mobile and laptop, their video buffering experiences holes in the buffer. It will be buffering, and after a certain point a gap is created between two buffered sections of video. When the video player reaches this gap, it is legitimately not buffered and stops playing.
(iii) Moving forward with the previous scenario, once it reaches this hole in the buffered video and stops playing, the playback stalls. I can sit there for minutes and it will not continue. I have to drag the slider backwards a few seconds, which will restart the playback/buffering process and then it works fine.
All of them are significantly better than their proprietary app.
Since most of these apps are single person efforts, a few million should be good enough right ? I can't see that putting a big dent into Reddit's pockets.