I have let my child watch some of the ChuChu TV videos, but I limit it to a fix time of 10 or 20 minutes tops.
I monitor which videos they are as the sidebar in youtube can suggest videos that are not appropriate for kids.
I think limiting screen time at a young at is what needs to be done. There are other activities the kids can do where they are engaging with their environment and using their senses.
It really depends where the kids grow up. Free range parenting is possible, but in metropolitan neighborhoods with lots of traffic and psychos the risks are quite high. Im a parent and would love for my kid to grow up the way I did, free range and all. But there are always risks. I remember being hit by cars twice. The first time just a bruise, the second time broken leg, double fracture, from which I developed a slight scoliosis. Some kids I grew up with died in stupid accidents so I keep the risks in balance. Are you a parent yourself? Would you let your kids free range in a city like NYC?? Yikes..
By the way, I really appreciate you giving the reason for the downvote. Kudos!
I rarely downvote myself, preferring to promote signal out of the noise instead. But that's just my preference. What I appreciate is knowing why, that's some understanding right there. I can use it, it's got value. I wish more of us would understand that.
There's a crisis of opinion like this in every generation. It happened with radio too.
I personally feel like the best approach is moderation for everything, but hey, people who don't watch media probably have more interesting hobbies than I do.
I hear that, my daughter can't even read but can play some really complex games with almost no direct intervention. Kids are incredible learning machines.
The restrictions on the iPad are rather mature at this point. I've blocked all unrestricted internet holes and just keep her within apps i've vetted.
With smoking it actually helps prevent children from acquiring the addiction if they grow up in a society where people rarely smoke. Denormalization of smoking has been proven to work.
> "Pat & Mat" is silent-duo home-improvement slapstic comedy that we kinda like :)
Did you know that Pat and Mat became a very popular export product of the Czech Republic? You might be surprised to learn that most Dutchmen know who Pat and Mat are (though not their names).
Something odd happened when it got imported into the Netherlands in the eighties: a soundtrack with spoken voices was added, and it gradually became a cult hit. Blasphemous as this may sound, the dialogue is as silly as the episodes themselves, and actually works.
The popularity of the show in the Netherlands actually helped create the demand for the new episodes made in this century.
Have a look at 'Buurman en Buurman' (neighbour and neighbour) on Youtube to see the Dutch rendition of Pat and Mat.
My dad gave me a laptop with games and basic tools on it when I was 2 years old, and i figured that out pretty quickly.
When I was 6, I was allowed to use the internet but there were limitations for time and keyloggers.
My parents gave up when they found out I was booting up with linux off a flash drive at 14.
I feel like I learned more about technology when there were obstacles to overcome, rather than instant gratification.
I would start my own kids off air-gapped and then gradually allow access, since for me it gave me a healthy respect for danger and taught me to find solutions.
Barry has a point, one piece of research does /= the absolute truth. Research is the scientific process of moving closer to the actual truth through experimental investigation. While you may believe this study, do not be certain that it can't be falsified.
I’m not a good person, or even close to it, and don’t mind being shamed for the harm I have caused people (some of it serious), but I wasn’t saying that. I was saying that Harvard should admit Beyoncé over me because she became more powerful than I did.
This is even weirder and outright nonsensical. Observing the fact that a child can use an iPad at age 2-3 does not imply anything about expectations for their speech development.
He obviously likes the iPad more than the laptop. As a kid, I would tear the keys out of mechanical keyboards all the time out of curiosity and boredom, but that didn't break them.
We tried the timer, but it wasn't so good for a program to suddenly cut off in the middle. I know I wouldn't be happy either if something I was into watching would just suddenly end. Now we let our kid watch about half an hour of YouTube a day, but try to let him stop at a natural place, such as the end of the video.
The only thing I really want is for foreign language videos not to appear in the list of suggested videos. Sometimes he gets trapped happily watching videos in Russian.
Just wanted to add that this is a beautiful example of why, you shouldn't pretend to know the motivations, or what happens inside the heads, of other people. (as piyushpr134 did)
> Maybe the problem isn't Netflix and Youtube, maybe the problem is letting them watch for 4 hours?
I actually think the problem is specifically binge watching services like Netflix and services with very variable quality of content like YouTube.
Whilst it’s not ideal, as a kid I’d watch the BBC children’s afternoon segment from 3 till 6 after school and whilst 3 hours of TV is unlikely to have been great for me, I received a variety of programming, some ok and some great. My problem with Netflix and YouTube is a child can binge watch a whole season of average content without any variety whatsoever. It’s not just a question of quality which I’m raising but quantity of the same show episode after episode.
As far as teaching kids sure, by all means we should teach them to moderate themselves but as a 34 year old I find it takes discipline and will power to regulate myself, what hope does a toddler or infant have when faced with video services which are designed to encourage consumption?
The one I have here is from '69-'74, and note that it's still certified "U", it simply starts with a verbal notice that "these early Sesame Street episodes are intended for grownups and may not suit the needs of today's preschool child," so it's a pretty mild warning. Milder than I remembered actually.
I found an article talking about it. It's pretty mild stuff, but an interesting illustration of how what we consider appropriate changes in all kinds of small ways:
> What parent today would want their child to see kids running through a construction site or jumping on an old box spring? Scenes like the ones included on the new DVD would probably not make it into today's program now.
> "We wouldn't have children on the set riding without a bicycle helmet," Rollins Westin says.
> And what's that little girl doing with that man?
> "In the very first episode, Gordon takes a little girl's hand who he's just met on the street, befriends her and takes her into his home to give her ice cream," Rollins Westin said. "That's something we wouldn't do on the show today."
> "In the very first episode, Gordon takes a little girl's hand who he's just met on the street, befriends her and takes her into his home to give her ice cream"
With this kind of normalization of hanging out with strangers on TV, I am not really surprised that children were more likely to be abducted in the 70's and 80's.
But it's more nowadays. I notice it even on myself. On the internet I can watch whatever I like, and stick to that for hours. On the TV theres maybe only 2-3 interesting shows to watch, so I would eventually turn it off.
My nephew was at one stage really into "The minions" movie. To be honest, I can quite enjoy movies like that myself (same for the other disney / pixar bunch).
The only downside was that he for some reason really liked it if I sat next to him watching it, but I don't have the ability to rewatch them countless times :P
Still, kids definitely get hooked on stuff and stick with it through countless repititions.
What strikes me thought is the story about a dad who catches the son on eating sugar and lying to him and the outcome is happiness and whole family dancing. What is simply cheating others is promoted as wit and smartness.
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[ 5.3 ms ] story [ 73.3 ms ] threadI monitor which videos they are as the sidebar in youtube can suggest videos that are not appropriate for kids.
I think limiting screen time at a young at is what needs to be done. There are other activities the kids can do where they are engaging with their environment and using their senses.
I rarely downvote myself, preferring to promote signal out of the noise instead. But that's just my preference. What I appreciate is knowing why, that's some understanding right there. I can use it, it's got value. I wish more of us would understand that.
I personally feel like the best approach is moderation for everything, but hey, people who don't watch media probably have more interesting hobbies than I do.
The restrictions on the iPad are rather mature at this point. I've blocked all unrestricted internet holes and just keep her within apps i've vetted.
Did you know that Pat and Mat became a very popular export product of the Czech Republic? You might be surprised to learn that most Dutchmen know who Pat and Mat are (though not their names).
Something odd happened when it got imported into the Netherlands in the eighties: a soundtrack with spoken voices was added, and it gradually became a cult hit. Blasphemous as this may sound, the dialogue is as silly as the episodes themselves, and actually works.
The popularity of the show in the Netherlands actually helped create the demand for the new episodes made in this century.
Have a look at 'Buurman en Buurman' (neighbour and neighbour) on Youtube to see the Dutch rendition of Pat and Mat.
When I was 6, I was allowed to use the internet but there were limitations for time and keyloggers.
My parents gave up when they found out I was booting up with linux off a flash drive at 14.
I feel like I learned more about technology when there were obstacles to overcome, rather than instant gratification.
I would start my own kids off air-gapped and then gradually allow access, since for me it gave me a healthy respect for danger and taught me to find solutions.
Are you trying to say that this is a good thing? Do we expect our children to be able, say, to speak English?
Is this the same child that was convinced sleeping under a tree would be fatal?
The only thing I really want is for foreign language videos not to appear in the list of suggested videos. Sometimes he gets trapped happily watching videos in Russian.
Just curious: Why is the comment racist?
I actually think the problem is specifically binge watching services like Netflix and services with very variable quality of content like YouTube.
Whilst it’s not ideal, as a kid I’d watch the BBC children’s afternoon segment from 3 till 6 after school and whilst 3 hours of TV is unlikely to have been great for me, I received a variety of programming, some ok and some great. My problem with Netflix and YouTube is a child can binge watch a whole season of average content without any variety whatsoever. It’s not just a question of quality which I’m raising but quantity of the same show episode after episode.
As far as teaching kids sure, by all means we should teach them to moderate themselves but as a 34 year old I find it takes discipline and will power to regulate myself, what hope does a toddler or infant have when faced with video services which are designed to encourage consumption?
I found an article talking about it. It's pretty mild stuff, but an interesting illustration of how what we consider appropriate changes in all kinds of small ways:
> What parent today would want their child to see kids running through a construction site or jumping on an old box spring? Scenes like the ones included on the new DVD would probably not make it into today's program now.
> "We wouldn't have children on the set riding without a bicycle helmet," Rollins Westin says.
> And what's that little girl doing with that man?
> "In the very first episode, Gordon takes a little girl's hand who he's just met on the street, befriends her and takes her into his home to give her ice cream," Rollins Westin said. "That's something we wouldn't do on the show today."
(From https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sesame-street-for-adults-only/ )
With this kind of normalization of hanging out with strangers on TV, I am not really surprised that children were more likely to be abducted in the 70's and 80's.
The only downside was that he for some reason really liked it if I sat next to him watching it, but I don't have the ability to rewatch them countless times :P
Still, kids definitely get hooked on stuff and stick with it through countless repititions.