Assuming that a release-1.2.1 branch existed and a hotfix was needed, what would the the hotfix be versioned as? 1.2a? 1.2.1a? 1.2.1 and then bump the release to 1.2.2?
Significantly? Probably not. Ten months is a long time in technology and best practice/process will have changed. The age is yet another factor to consider while reading the article.
Best practices change a lot more slowly than the emergence of new technologies. For the good reason that to determine something is a best practice takes time and finding something even better takes even more time. When considering core/base technologies it's usually safe to give it a lot more than ten months before dismissing it and even in that case only in the presence of something known that could improve on it.
Replacing your best practices/processes every couple months to keep up with the latest trends is a recipe for disaster in any multi-person development environment and change breeds confusion.
That said this setup won't work for everyone nor does the author claim it should do. It's another possible tool for your belt to consider depending on your work and the team you're working with.
I guess the to short version is don't be so quick to dismiss things based off age(or lack thereof in this case) unless you can dismiss it with a proven replacement.
personally how I do things is constantly changing. Usually in small increments but I am always looking for new and better methods. Many will just just be used for a short period.
You should not however be so quick in concluding that I said to dismiss the article. I am nearly bringing attention to the fact that it is nearly a year old and to consider it while making your own evaluation of the article.
Some things I've found are best to keep fairly stable for longer periods of time. Branching policy with git is one of these. I'm not sure of your experiences with managing development teams using git but from mine I've found setting a branching policy(this one actually) and making sure people stick to it is the best way to minimize confusion and keep people on track.
Side note: I think the reason your previous comments were down voted wasn't your concern about the age of the article so much as your lack of a better alternative. If you could say "This was from Jan and this has been shown to be better" people would probably be posting stories about your new technique. To just say it is 10 months old though adds nothing to the conversation.
I dare you to implement a compiler with only stuff invented since January 6, 2010. Or do basically anything (including eat). Eventually, we'll pity you and bring you antibiotics and parsing algorithms.
--no-ff doesn't get rid of the individual commits, it just guarantees that a merge commit gets created as well, so it's easy to see what branch was merged in. If you don't use it and the commits you're merging in can be applied via fast forward, it skips creating the merge commit.
I use and highly recommend Gerrit. http://code.google.com/p/gerrit/ Having a code review-based workflow has shifted my team from never talking with each other and writing silos of bad code to talking with each other every day and actively working to improve things. It's probably the best thing we've ever done.
Tangential, but any suggestions for educating a dev team used to another VCS? (In my case, Perforce, but I'm sure e.g. svn->git advice will be useful for someone.)
I've used both git & p4 for a while and know their ins & outs, but would love to know if anybody has any suggestions for the crossover. My X-importing-to-Y experience has been limited to svn-to-git, svn-to-hg, and hg-to-git.
I made some success by showing off git-svn in the environments/places where they were still using svn. I would show off by using many local branches, by doing things like fixing bugs in another branch right away, test other developers' commits in other branches to see if they really work, or basically things that are hard to do with svn. They still get to use their svn repos as the "origin" but they meet the flexibility of git.
I'm asking about explaining git to people used to p4, importing tools, etc. They're already convinced, they're just really used to the way p4 does things, p4v, etc. (TortoiseGit will help.)
Is there a graphical tool (along the lines of TortoiseSVN) that you can use to do all this?
The added hassle of memorizing shell commands (and opening a command prompt every time you want to commit) are just not worth any incremental benefit that Git might provide. I'm happy using SVN because it's got good tools. Surely there's an equivalent for Git?
Anyone know the status of EGit? I can't download source or binaries; it looks like the server has been down for a couple weeks. http://www.eclipse.org/egit/
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[ 3.0 ms ] story [ 50.8 ms ] threadAssuming that a release-1.2.1 branch existed and a hotfix was needed, what would the the hotfix be versioned as? 1.2a? 1.2.1a? 1.2.1 and then bump the release to 1.2.2?
Related discussions:
- Why aren't you using git-flow? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1617425
- Ask HN: What's your dev teams git multi-environment setup workflow like? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1738934
- Our Git Workflow: Private Development, Public Releases (at Braintree): http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1611667
- My Git Workflow (Michael Ivey): http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=441670
- My Common Git Workflow (Yehuda Katz): http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1343753
- Git Workflow for Agile Teams: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=624319
Replacing your best practices/processes every couple months to keep up with the latest trends is a recipe for disaster in any multi-person development environment and change breeds confusion.
That said this setup won't work for everyone nor does the author claim it should do. It's another possible tool for your belt to consider depending on your work and the team you're working with.
I guess the to short version is don't be so quick to dismiss things based off age(or lack thereof in this case) unless you can dismiss it with a proven replacement.
You should not however be so quick in concluding that I said to dismiss the article. I am nearly bringing attention to the fact that it is nearly a year old and to consider it while making your own evaluation of the article.
Side note: I think the reason your previous comments were down voted wasn't your concern about the age of the article so much as your lack of a better alternative. If you could say "This was from Jan and this has been shown to be better" people would probably be posting stories about your new technique. To just say it is 10 months old though adds nothing to the conversation.
I dare you to implement a compiler with only stuff invented since January 6, 2010. Or do basically anything (including eat). Eventually, we'll pity you and bring you antibiotics and parsing algorithms.
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1730788
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1460895
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1222755
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1199117
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1063198 <- This one has comments
I've used both git & p4 for a while and know their ins & outs, but would love to know if anybody has any suggestions for the crossover. My X-importing-to-Y experience has been limited to svn-to-git, svn-to-hg, and hg-to-git.
The added hassle of memorizing shell commands (and opening a command prompt every time you want to commit) are just not worth any incremental benefit that Git might provide. I'm happy using SVN because it's got good tools. Surely there's an equivalent for Git?
I haven't used it, but there is a tortoisegit project: http://code.google.com/p/tortoisegit/
Anyone know the status of EGit? I can't download source or binaries; it looks like the server has been down for a couple weeks. http://www.eclipse.org/egit/
I find that the workflow using this tool fits me better than with tortoise, mostly because it is repo-centric, instead of working on the explorer.