"Gloria Jean’s was the best job I ever had, because it was the only time I felt like there was community to be found in an unnatural environment built solely for the purpose of buying things. I care more about the women who worked there than I do, no offense, about anyone I met in school or from Twitter"
Makes me think of the movie Clerks, and other depictions of this spirit of community in a unnatural commercial environment.
Somehow the environment greatly strengthens these human connection. I do have nostalgia for these days. Corporations, instead of perfecting this kind of warmth and making the working environment tolerable, perfected exploitation. Always short sighted short term profit.
That reminds me of one of my favorite comedy series, Party Down. It was canceled largely because two of the actors (Adam Scott and Jane Lynch) were pulled into two major network shows (Parks & Recreation and Glee, respectively).
Is it just me, or is HN becoming a dumping ground for worthless stories from internet "media" rags like Vox, The Atlantic, etc.? Are these outlets spamming their stories to HN, or are people simply karma-whoring?
>The interests of HN participants is wide ranging.
Sure, but I guess then I lament the lack of “approvable opinions”, or diversity of opinion.
See the guy above downvoted into oblivion for wanting more tech articles on hackernews. I don’t love it’s getting harder and harder to tell the difference between here and Reddit including the bubble and brigading.
Edit: well, way to prove my point about lack of “acceptable opinions” :D
I'm not against more tech articles on hacker news. The more articles, the better! But that is a separate issue from disliking certain articles that are submitted.
To your point about the bubble, that is why I want more articles that are not tech focused. I don't care about your javascript framework, I don't care about why this datastore is better over that datastore, and I most definitely don't care about why I should be using Python 3 over Python 2. I care about the intersection of technology and humanity, I care about biomedical developments (which you might consider outside of HN's wheelhouse), I care about how technology can be used to strengthen democracy, raise the poorest out of poverty, and to save lives. I care about people more than technology. Alongside these topics, I want intelligent discourse between subject matter experts and the intellectually curious. This is why I'm here.
EDIT: With regards to "approvable opinions", don't let the fake internet points discourage you. I still voice opinions that I think are based on sound thesis in this forum, regardless of how the hive responds. As the saying goes, "My opinions are my own".
We can both get what we want. Happy holidays to you!
Ha, yea I definitely don’t care. In this case I find it a curiosity of someone thinking ”I’m going to try and hide an opinion that people should have varying opinions!”. Without seeing any shortsightedness in themselves.
The perception is common but inaccurate. HN has always had plenty of general-interest articles.
HN's mandate is "anything that gratifies intellectual curiosity". As people's curiosities differ, so do their opinions about what's on topic. When you run into a streak of articles you don't like—and randomness guarantees such streaks—it starts to feel like HN has gone off the rails. The underlying system is more stable than that makes it seem.
Oooh this link should totally go into the bar at the top of the screen.
I am often anxious about missing some important piece of news and it makes me keep reading, feeding my HN "addiction". If I knew I could just come back later and check yesterday's new I would feel a lot less compelled to finish reading the front page before it expires.
TLDR: his boss at a mall coffee shop was great and being a teen, he loved working for pocket cash on black fridays. i think the author has it all wrong and is mistaking his nostalgia and youth experience for the reality of modern day black friday. the fact he liked working is not a consequence of a particularly good boss.
> Workers are given little or no choice about the shifts they get, which commonly cut into family celebrations
So what? Many people work on holidays and some actually enjoy it over spending time with their families (independent of whether they can paid more or not). The fact that others don't have to work doesn't change the reality. It's a job and it's fairly well know for certain jobs that you will have to work on holidays when others aren't working. You are given a choice. You can choose to find another job that doesn't require that. [1] You can try to get a job in an office doing something which is certainly not going to have you come in on a holiday. The reason you choose a mall job (food court or otherwise) is because it was something that others were doing and/or you didn't put the effort into trying to get another job. And you probably like being around a constantly changing array of people (which you wouldn't have in an office). Bottom line stop complaining and whining it's not the worst thing out there or even close. Stop being so entitled and blaming others and the boss for your predicament in life (whatever it is and whatever the cause).
[1] Can't find a job? Maybe that is why in high school you should have been working harder and not socializing and what not. Of course there are people that this doesn't apply to. But my guess is it does in an overwhelming number of cases. Besides mall jobs are as stepping stone. You will get to enjoy and play later in life.
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[ 5.3 ms ] story [ 82.0 ms ] threadMakes me think of the movie Clerks, and other depictions of this spirit of community in a unnatural commercial environment. Somehow the environment greatly strengthens these human connection. I do have nostalgia for these days. Corporations, instead of perfecting this kind of warmth and making the working environment tolerable, perfected exploitation. Always short sighted short term profit.
"Partygoers Mocked By Catering Staff"
https://www.theonion.com/partygoers-mocked-by-catering-staff...
Experts say mockery of the well-to-do by the serving class is a millennia-old tradition.
You can watch the first episode free here: https://www.starz.com/series/partydown/episodes/5131/details
Sure, but I guess then I lament the lack of “approvable opinions”, or diversity of opinion.
See the guy above downvoted into oblivion for wanting more tech articles on hackernews. I don’t love it’s getting harder and harder to tell the difference between here and Reddit including the bubble and brigading.
Edit: well, way to prove my point about lack of “acceptable opinions” :D
To your point about the bubble, that is why I want more articles that are not tech focused. I don't care about your javascript framework, I don't care about why this datastore is better over that datastore, and I most definitely don't care about why I should be using Python 3 over Python 2. I care about the intersection of technology and humanity, I care about biomedical developments (which you might consider outside of HN's wheelhouse), I care about how technology can be used to strengthen democracy, raise the poorest out of poverty, and to save lives. I care about people more than technology. Alongside these topics, I want intelligent discourse between subject matter experts and the intellectually curious. This is why I'm here.
EDIT: With regards to "approvable opinions", don't let the fake internet points discourage you. I still voice opinions that I think are based on sound thesis in this forum, regardless of how the hive responds. As the saying goes, "My opinions are my own".
We can both get what we want. Happy holidays to you!
Please don't submit comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills.
HN's mandate is "anything that gratifies intellectual curiosity". As people's curiosities differ, so do their opinions about what's on topic. When you run into a streak of articles you don't like—and randomness guarantees such streaks—it starts to feel like HN has gone off the rails. The underlying system is more stable than that makes it seem.
Fortunately, if you don't like one article, there are others. For example, you can always look at what you missed yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2018-11-21.
I am often anxious about missing some important piece of news and it makes me keep reading, feeding my HN "addiction". If I knew I could just come back later and check yesterday's new I would feel a lot less compelled to finish reading the front page before it expires.
Maybe something as laconic as "front" would suffice?
Maybe 'old' or 'older'...I kind of like that by contrast with 'new'.
"Older" would be my choice between those two.
TLDR: his boss at a mall coffee shop was great and being a teen, he loved working for pocket cash on black fridays. i think the author has it all wrong and is mistaking his nostalgia and youth experience for the reality of modern day black friday. the fact he liked working is not a consequence of a particularly good boss.
not really worth the 5 minute read.
So what? Many people work on holidays and some actually enjoy it over spending time with their families (independent of whether they can paid more or not). The fact that others don't have to work doesn't change the reality. It's a job and it's fairly well know for certain jobs that you will have to work on holidays when others aren't working. You are given a choice. You can choose to find another job that doesn't require that. [1] You can try to get a job in an office doing something which is certainly not going to have you come in on a holiday. The reason you choose a mall job (food court or otherwise) is because it was something that others were doing and/or you didn't put the effort into trying to get another job. And you probably like being around a constantly changing array of people (which you wouldn't have in an office). Bottom line stop complaining and whining it's not the worst thing out there or even close. Stop being so entitled and blaming others and the boss for your predicament in life (whatever it is and whatever the cause).
[1] Can't find a job? Maybe that is why in high school you should have been working harder and not socializing and what not. Of course there are people that this doesn't apply to. But my guess is it does in an overwhelming number of cases. Besides mall jobs are as stepping stone. You will get to enjoy and play later in life.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html