"The most unlikely? A 2013 Ford F-150 clocked at 150 mph just outside Fort Worth."
Indeed. The F150 has a limiter that cuts in at 100mph. Something is amiss there. I'm not even sure the gearing makes it possible. We Maybe it was clocked driving off a cliff? Assuming terminal velocity is even that fast for a truck :)
Ahh, I guess so. Perhaps more than "lightly modified" though. $17,995 extra on top of the base Raptor for the supercharged 6.2-liter V-8 and a transmission that's geared high enough to get going that fast. $62,625 total for the Shelby version of the Raptor. I guess that qualifies as "extensive".
The 2013 VelociRaptor (likely listed as an F-150 in most databases) has a top speed of 155 mph. I'm sure most people could relatively easily modify a normal F-150 Raptor to get there as well. Electronic governors are common for this class of vehicles due to stock tires that are not chosen for top speed runs.
Well, the 155mph top speed is for the Hennesey modified Raptor that has 600hp, versus the stock 410hp. And the total price is $149,500. So, if you buy Ford's fastest F150 and pour a shit ton of money into it, you can get to 150mph :)
Definitely. You could probably buy another car that would reach 150mph for the price of the overhaul alone, but in an ordinary supercar you wouldn't be the topic of a random internet thread about the fastest clocked speeds in TX. ;)
I know this will be an incredibly unpopular opinion around here but most official sources for stopping distance seem to use a very slow to react person driving a vehicle on 10yo economy tires to generate the baseline for their stopping distance calculations. This is at the high end of what to expect in reality. Non-terrible tires and non-terrible reaction time can shave a lot off that.
Think about it like a reverse drag race where you start at trap speed and reach 0 ASAP and the vehicle always has more power than it can put to the ground (indeed brakes are basically always capable of enough torque to break the wheels free). Pretty much anything on good tires should be able to stop from that kind of speed in under 1/4mi. It won't be 1/8mi but it will be solidly under 1/4.
I can say from personal experience that if you have non-terrible tires and you're stopping in the kind of distances insurance companies, driver's ed and state drivers' manuals like to quote then something is wrong because those sources are very, conservative with stuff like that (for obvious reasons).
You have to assume something other than a best-case stopping distance because almost all drivers assume they are a "good" driver and will assume they can stop in the minimum distance even when they can't. Most drivers also don't pay enough attention to what's going on to have good reaction times.
There's one right turn I take off a rural road where the telephone poles are 200ft apart. I usually try and see how fast I can stop if nobody is around. I've been doing this for years. The difference between bald Douglas all-seasons one week and the same tires but brand new the following week is the difference between ~400ft@80mph (approximately textbook stopping distance) and about 350ft. I could probably shave off more distance if I had ABS and could plant my foot and make the computer do all the optimization for me.
I'm not trying to assume best case. I'm saying we should not assume worst case either. Most sources do the latter because most sources seek to coax everyone into driving conservatively (which is not a bad thing).
I grew up in Carson county. 166mph isn't ever really safe, but the Texas Panhandle is flat (I mean seriously flat) and I40 is a pretty well kept highway. If your going to go 166 on public roads, that might be one of the best places to do it..
I will add 10:22am there would've been quite a bit of traffic (relatively speaking) and highway patrol loves hanging out on I40 (as it's a major drug corridor).
How much $ and or jail time would one get for a 166 mph speeding offense ?
In my country (France) you would loose your driving license for up to 3 years, pay a hefty fine between 1500 and 4000 euros, have your car confiscated and might even go to jail for a few months if you're a repeat offender.
The US tends to have much more lax laws than Europe when it comes to minimum punishment but reserves the right to screw people hard if it wants.
In most states if the cop doesn't like something about you they can make 20-over (which BTW is normal traffic speed on a lot of highways when they aren't clogged with traffic) a misdemeanor which can carry all sorts of penalties if the prosecutor wants to throw the book. There's also "catch-all" violations that are vaguely worded that they can nab your for even if you're doing nothing (at which point it's basically up to the court to decide WTF to do).
There's no standard amount to pay for speeding ? I understand that anywhere in the world a cop can "find" something to charge you, but in the case of a speeding ticket I would expect some kind standard fine say $500 for 20mph or less and $1000 for more.
Cops won't always give you a ticket for "driving over the speed limit" either. Sometimes, if a cop is letting you off easy, they will give you a smaller fine like "disobeying traffic signs" or something similar. Each has a different minimum. I think they may also vary from state to state.
Depends on the location and cop. Laws vary wildly across city/county/state here. And, it could just be a speeding ticket, but could also get a reckless endangerment misdemeanor, which could be months in jail. Prosecuters and judges have lots of leeway between min and max.
I would guess the penalty might range from an expensive ticket all the way up to several months in jail with fines on top. Depends on where in the US you get caught.
I personally would, but those cars aren't, really.
I've driven highish end German cars at speed, and American muscle at speed, and there's NO question in my mind which is better engineered for that kind of behavior.
The scariest thing I noticed was the 166mph (15 year old) Porsche was apparently in heavy traffic?!
Also a bit concerned that lists like this gaining publicity may cause the problem to get worse. Some may see last year's "high score" as a challenge to top.
Yeah. That's what bothers me. I have no problem with people going stupid fast on almost empty highways but traffic where you're passing people regularly is very dangerous because you never know whether or not someone is going to be an inconsiderate jerk and move left at the last minute. At that speed you probably can't drop speed fast enough to not rear end them and most people don't do a good enough job checking their mirrors (lol, if they check them) to see that you're actually coming up fast.
That said, finding the space to get up to that speed in heavy traffic is somewhat of an achievement in itself.
If by "be an inconsiderate jerk" you mean "move left to make a left turn or pass someone going below the speed limit, having misjudged the speed of someone in their rearview mirror going twice what a speeding car normally does".
People always seem to move left at the last minute with little to no warning (blinker on when you begin moving does not count as "warning". Like if you are in the left and there is a big gap in front of you a car in the right will wait until the end of that gap to move left. That is being an inconsiderate jerk. A lot of times you can predict when someone will do this but sometimes it is not expected (which is the primary reason it is highly unwise to be passing people going 20+ faster than them).
Eh, there are two jerks in that situation, usually, and either could be considerate of inconsiderate.
You've got three drivers, A, doing whatever, we'll assume speed limit +0.
Then you've got B, doing speed limit +5 and closing the gap between him and A in the right lane.
And finally you've got C, doing speed limit +10 in the left lane, coming up behind B.
B could be considerate in that they are assuming that C, being the sort of crazy speed limit who drives faster than themselves, would prefer the chance to accelerate to +15 or +20 and pass both A&B before the A/B pass is executed, but C isn't going to do that because they're happy doing +10 and not a penny over. Or they could be the inconsiderate jerk who isn't paying attention to C at all.
C could be considerate in that they assume B wants to be going faster than +5 and are giving them an opportunity to pass A and go at least +10, but B is happy going +5 and doesn't want to go a penny over. Or they could be an inconsiderate jerk who just wants to drive +10 in the left lane and thinks everyone should get out of their way.
The end result is that B ends up pissed off that that asshole C refused to pass him and then tailgates him for the next 30 seconds until the pass is complete, while C ends up pissed off that the asshole B waited until the last second to pass and then did so extremely slow.
A stays blissfully happy so long as neither B not C hit him, and B doesn't merge back too aggressively while completing the pass, forcing him to decelerate, or C attempts to pass B on the right because B is taking to long to merge, again forcing A to decelerate to maintain proper following distance.
In any case, both B&C are jerks for exceeding the speed limit and then acting entitled about it.
In high school I got my mom's civic up to 135MPH, at which point it felt like it was about to take off so I slowed it down, gently.
but that was on a completely empty, open road, where no cars could be seen for miles.
I can't fathom going that fast in traffic.
edit: It should be mentioned I had a long history at that point of driving 100+ nearly all the time. That stopped when I finally got pulled over the summer before college and got a $300 ticket. I can't afford to speed like that. lol
One hint that the Rodney King incident was fishy was the LAPD claiming he was fleeing at 115mph in a 1988 Hyundai Excel. Top speed of which was 100mph, and probably took a not windy day and quite a bit of runway to hit.
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[ 4.4 ms ] story [ 95.9 ms ] threadIndeed. The F150 has a limiter that cuts in at 100mph. Something is amiss there. I'm not even sure the gearing makes it possible. We Maybe it was clocked driving off a cliff? Assuming terminal velocity is even that fast for a truck :)
https://www.topspeed.com/cars/ford/2013-ford-f-150-raptor-sv...
Think about it like a reverse drag race where you start at trap speed and reach 0 ASAP and the vehicle always has more power than it can put to the ground (indeed brakes are basically always capable of enough torque to break the wheels free). Pretty much anything on good tires should be able to stop from that kind of speed in under 1/4mi. It won't be 1/8mi but it will be solidly under 1/4.
I can say from personal experience that if you have non-terrible tires and you're stopping in the kind of distances insurance companies, driver's ed and state drivers' manuals like to quote then something is wrong because those sources are very, conservative with stuff like that (for obvious reasons).
I'm not trying to assume best case. I'm saying we should not assume worst case either. Most sources do the latter because most sources seek to coax everyone into driving conservatively (which is not a bad thing).
I will add 10:22am there would've been quite a bit of traffic (relatively speaking) and highway patrol loves hanging out on I40 (as it's a major drug corridor).
> VIOLATOR ADMITTED TO SPEED AS "BEING A RECORD"
another one
> First checked at 85 mph northbound on I-45 driving in the left hand lane. Sped off at a high rate of speed "sped off at a high rate of speed".
Is that proper english?
>DRIVER ADMITTED HE WAS RUNNING LATE TO WORK AND THOUGHT HE WAS GOING 130 MPH NOT 137 MPH
that's a 80pmh zone. Is there some cutoff at 130 that would have made the driver's situation better if below 130?!
The rate of a rate is the acceleration, so it's valid English, but probably not what was meant.
In my country (France) you would loose your driving license for up to 3 years, pay a hefty fine between 1500 and 4000 euros, have your car confiscated and might even go to jail for a few months if you're a repeat offender.
The US tends to have much more lax laws than Europe when it comes to minimum punishment but reserves the right to screw people hard if it wants.
In most states if the cop doesn't like something about you they can make 20-over (which BTW is normal traffic speed on a lot of highways when they aren't clogged with traffic) a misdemeanor which can carry all sorts of penalties if the prosecutor wants to throw the book. There's also "catch-all" violations that are vaguely worded that they can nab your for even if you're doing nothing (at which point it's basically up to the court to decide WTF to do).
I would guess the penalty might range from an expensive ticket all the way up to several months in jail with fines on top. Depends on where in the US you get caught.
I've driven highish end German cars at speed, and American muscle at speed, and there's NO question in my mind which is better engineered for that kind of behavior.
Watch the driving portion of the GT review by Doug DeMuro, he's blown away by the driving experience: https://youtu.be/l5zT005oGbA?t=1123
Also a bit concerned that lists like this gaining publicity may cause the problem to get worse. Some may see last year's "high score" as a challenge to top.
That said, finding the space to get up to that speed in heavy traffic is somewhat of an achievement in itself.
You've got three drivers, A, doing whatever, we'll assume speed limit +0.
Then you've got B, doing speed limit +5 and closing the gap between him and A in the right lane.
And finally you've got C, doing speed limit +10 in the left lane, coming up behind B.
B could be considerate in that they are assuming that C, being the sort of crazy speed limit who drives faster than themselves, would prefer the chance to accelerate to +15 or +20 and pass both A&B before the A/B pass is executed, but C isn't going to do that because they're happy doing +10 and not a penny over. Or they could be the inconsiderate jerk who isn't paying attention to C at all.
C could be considerate in that they assume B wants to be going faster than +5 and are giving them an opportunity to pass A and go at least +10, but B is happy going +5 and doesn't want to go a penny over. Or they could be an inconsiderate jerk who just wants to drive +10 in the left lane and thinks everyone should get out of their way.
The end result is that B ends up pissed off that that asshole C refused to pass him and then tailgates him for the next 30 seconds until the pass is complete, while C ends up pissed off that the asshole B waited until the last second to pass and then did so extremely slow.
A stays blissfully happy so long as neither B not C hit him, and B doesn't merge back too aggressively while completing the pass, forcing him to decelerate, or C attempts to pass B on the right because B is taking to long to merge, again forcing A to decelerate to maintain proper following distance.
In any case, both B&C are jerks for exceeding the speed limit and then acting entitled about it.
but that was on a completely empty, open road, where no cars could be seen for miles.
I can't fathom going that fast in traffic.
edit: It should be mentioned I had a long history at that point of driving 100+ nearly all the time. That stopped when I finally got pulled over the summer before college and got a $300 ticket. I can't afford to speed like that. lol
http://articles.latimes.com/1991-03-30/news/mn-850_1_police-...