I find it interesting that within the space of a human lifetime these words can go from secret language to common usage, completely divorced from where they came from. I wonder what my Grandparents think when I discuss having a bevvy.
Although that shouldn't really be surprising, as my younger brother will happily use bad to mean good without any context/intonation whatsoever. So if a common word can reverse in meaning in a decade....
I grew up with that usage, I coped very well with that usage. If I'm talking with my 12 year old mates saying "wow that's well bad" it is obvious what I mean. If I bake a new cake recipe and ask you to try it, and you neutrally reply "that is bad", what am I to infer from that? Not "wow that is well bad", or "that's bad ass", or "mmm that is one bad cake".
If Stephen Hawking said "that is bad", what would you infer from that?
I would assume those words would leak into the public lexicon without the public realizing their origins.
The gay community back then was largely camouflaged within the few areas they were accepted: artistic communities and long naval voyages (where men having sex with men was considered a reality of life at sea). So people may associate those words with the larger groups which were not suspected of being gay.
...and has been for six months. That's disappointing of Cloudflare, considering the Nasa domain problems reported at similar time were resolved in short order.
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[ 0.24 ms ] story [ 71.6 ms ] threadAnd from 2015: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10104648
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhyming_slang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thieves%27_cant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padonkaffsky_jargon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelta
Although that shouldn't really be surprising, as my younger brother will happily use bad to mean good without any context/intonation whatsoever. So if a common word can reverse in meaning in a decade....
Here's an example of that from the 1989 movie The Wizard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVc6xuQfq9Q
He loves the Nintendo Power Glove. It's so bad.
My brother doesn't say "that is bad", he says "that is bad".
Then he gets exasperated when I ask him if he means good or not good.
I grew up with that usage, I coped very well with that usage. If I'm talking with my 12 year old mates saying "wow that's well bad" it is obvious what I mean. If I bake a new cake recipe and ask you to try it, and you neutrally reply "that is bad", what am I to infer from that? Not "wow that is well bad", or "that's bad ass", or "mmm that is one bad cake".
If Stephen Hawking said "that is bad", what would you infer from that?
That he'd faked his death.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_(album)
The gay community back then was largely camouflaged within the few areas they were accepted: artistic communities and long naval voyages (where men having sex with men was considered a reality of life at sea). So people may associate those words with the larger groups which were not suspected of being gay.
Most people - including me, and almost everyone else who watched Monty Python - had no idea what they were hearing.
edit: It's a known issue: https://community.cloudflare.com/t/www-lancaster-ac-uk-not-r...