I hate these kinds of comments, but this time it's really bothering me. Actually interested in the headline, I stopped my adblocker; my fucking God, is this what normal people face regularly nowadays? It's insane...
Not sure what's on that site; I hopped right into firefox's reader mode on the first popup that... popped up, and it all seems pretty good now :)
It's hard for me to imagine browsing the web without it anymore, and I assume for regular people it's just an annoying experience of blindly agreeing and accepting everything without reading :/
HN can sure be a whiny bunch at times, let's disable the ad blocker and go see how "bad" it...OMG, you weren't kidding. I seriously say to readers not using an ad blocker: good luck finding the content you were looking for.
OTOH, I think I found a new Pi Hole test bed to replace cafemom.com.
It also contains less information as it makes it seem like Slack and O365 are collaborating when they are not.
tl;dr: "Microsoft has shown in the past that it’s willing to partner with rivals like Dropbox, but Slack’s Office 365 integration was created using public APIs and with no special help from Microsoft. This Slack integration comes just months after Microsoft launched its free version of Teams to rival Slack, just weeks after the company unveiled creative new conference call features for its Slack competitor." (from the Verge article)
G Suite add-ons were also released at the same time (or at least the update notification stated so) and at least the calendar and email add-ons have been awesome so far.
This is a good move from Slack. Microsoft teams is an extremely high quality product already. Slack has to be wary of this competitive force nipping at their heels. I've seen teams make good penetration into large companies by starting as the alternative to sharepoint for new projects/working groups.
Team's live editing functionality of excel files is really really valuable for team collaboration. Slack closing the gap on O365 integration is important for enterprise sales.
> Microsoft teams is an extremely high quality product already.
This has not been my experience with MS Teams. If I respond to a message on my phone, and then return to my laptop, Teams has disconnected and I have to restart the app on my laptop in order to get updated messages. Scrolling back even 5 minutes in Teams' message history incurs multi-second latency sometimes, so reviewing the context of a conversation you're in is very painful. Threading is handled very poorly in teams and makes teams feel much more like a decades old forum than a chat application.
I do agree this is a good move for Slack, but only because organizations are adopting teams due to its bundling with Office 365, something most companies are already using. Slack has no other way to survive because the people in the org making these decisions aren't concerned with the quality of the tools they are choosing, just the idea they are getting something for free.
yep, teams has a lot of potential, but there's a lot of rough edges. for example until recently copy-and-paste didn't work. i was just thinking of moving from teams to slack. hopefully this is good news
We've moved from Teams, to Slack, and back to Teams over the last 2 years. Teams has come a long way since 2017, but the basic chat functionality is still pretty far behind Slack.
I don't really see how MS teams is a "high quality product". We have been forced to move from Slack To Microsoft teams in the past month. And I'm already missing it. Even though that Slack's threads were a mess, at least they always appeared in chronological order. Now in teams I miss a lot of messages because the way it reorder them when someone respond to an old thread.
TBH the feature I miss the most, is reacting to a certain message with emojis! It added liveliness to the whole chat.
>as the alternative to sharepoint for new projects/working groups.
>Team's live editing functionality of excel files
Teams is a Client, SharePoint is the server. When you use Teams to view a file list or open an excel file, all its doing is streaming the SharePoint web interface, like an iframe. Teams, as far as the file side goes, is a new form of browser chrome (the toolbars not Google Chrome, albiet Teams is also based on electron aka Chrome.) for SharePoint, instead of the Modern SharePoint Web interface.
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[ 2.9 ms ] story [ 53.3 ms ] threadIt's hard for me to imagine browsing the web without it anymore, and I assume for regular people it's just an annoying experience of blindly agreeing and accepting everything without reading :/
OTOH, I think I found a new Pi Hole test bed to replace cafemom.com.
It also contains less information as it makes it seem like Slack and O365 are collaborating when they are not.
tl;dr: "Microsoft has shown in the past that it’s willing to partner with rivals like Dropbox, but Slack’s Office 365 integration was created using public APIs and with no special help from Microsoft. This Slack integration comes just months after Microsoft launched its free version of Teams to rival Slack, just weeks after the company unveiled creative new conference call features for its Slack competitor." (from the Verge article)
Team's live editing functionality of excel files is really really valuable for team collaboration. Slack closing the gap on O365 integration is important for enterprise sales.
This has not been my experience with MS Teams. If I respond to a message on my phone, and then return to my laptop, Teams has disconnected and I have to restart the app on my laptop in order to get updated messages. Scrolling back even 5 minutes in Teams' message history incurs multi-second latency sometimes, so reviewing the context of a conversation you're in is very painful. Threading is handled very poorly in teams and makes teams feel much more like a decades old forum than a chat application.
I do agree this is a good move for Slack, but only because organizations are adopting teams due to its bundling with Office 365, something most companies are already using. Slack has no other way to survive because the people in the org making these decisions aren't concerned with the quality of the tools they are choosing, just the idea they are getting something for free.
Next time, I'll stick with Slack.
TBH the feature I miss the most, is reacting to a certain message with emojis! It added liveliness to the whole chat.
Lolwut? Have you used Teams? The product is bad ripoff Slack. So many issues, crashes all the time.
>Team's live editing functionality of excel files
Teams is a Client, SharePoint is the server. When you use Teams to view a file list or open an excel file, all its doing is streaming the SharePoint web interface, like an iframe. Teams, as far as the file side goes, is a new form of browser chrome (the toolbars not Google Chrome, albiet Teams is also based on electron aka Chrome.) for SharePoint, instead of the Modern SharePoint Web interface.