I recently finished thinking in systems and i want to learn more.So i am looking for book reccomendation.If possible any books related to programming and math and systems thinking.
I ask because the single best book on cybernetics (and I mean it, it feels a tad bit absurd how much better than other works on the topic it seems to me) costs roughly that, isn't available on Libgen, and nobody dares mention it anywhere in fear of driving prices on
used copies up, because nobody wants the publisher to get any money for it, cause while they sure charge a lot for it, they actively hampered efforts by the original authors for a new edition of the book. (The rights to it eventually did end up in the right hands - a decade too late.)
If you wanna know why we don't see widespread adaption of systems thinking, it seems almost singularly caused by the nega-butterfly effect of that book not sitting on Libgen & having a price tag on it so gigantic people don't even wanna talk about it.
It's not, but seeing how I get accused of all kinds of things here by now and people have started swarming my DMs on Twitter, here y'all go — but one of you better put it on Libgen:
Hey I just bought this book, at the back she gives a great suggested reading list, I encourage you to take a look and pick one that sparks your interest :).
yes I have seen that but as said in question I am looking some mathy and programming of systems,if not that then something different according to the reader liked.
Sterman's "Business Dynamics" may be of interest to you, but it's pricey. You may be able to find a PDF online. Morecroft's "Strategic Modelling and Business Dynamics" is available on Safari Books Online if you have a subscription.
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[ 3.2 ms ] story [ 72.6 ms ] threadAlso everything written by Goldratt.
In particular: The Goal and It's not luck Both are business novels, they read lightly but the lessons are profound.
The system-oriented lessons/examples are great. The 80s style dialogues, integrations, and throwbacks are fun sideshows.
https://www.art-sciencefactory.com/complexity-map_feb09.html
https://www.santafe.edu
https://newbooksnetwork.com/category/systems-and-cybernetics...
I ask because the single best book on cybernetics (and I mean it, it feels a tad bit absurd how much better than other works on the topic it seems to me) costs roughly that, isn't available on Libgen, and nobody dares mention it anywhere in fear of driving prices on used copies up, because nobody wants the publisher to get any money for it, cause while they sure charge a lot for it, they actively hampered efforts by the original authors for a new edition of the book. (The rights to it eventually did end up in the right hands - a decade too late.)
If you wanna know why we don't see widespread adaption of systems thinking, it seems almost singularly caused by the nega-butterfly effect of that book not sitting on Libgen & having a price tag on it so gigantic people don't even wanna talk about it.
So ironic, makes me want to puke.
There are embarassingly many cybernetics books this could refer to (particularly from the midcentury)...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Encyclopedia_of_...
Seems I recalled the price wrong - over $600, apparently.
And here, links to two reviews of the first edition:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/%28SICI%2910...
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/%28SICI%2910...
Also, here, a slide deck about the second edition:
http://benking.de/systems/encyclopedia/BBK-Saur-Library-Fran...
I hope the third edition comes around at some point...
Some of the books on that list aren't readily available, because as cybernetics went out of style they went out of print.