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nscalf
I can't vouch to how accurate it is, but I found levels.fyi interesting.
akhilcacharya
The bonus number is inflated by the intern signing bonus - which can be anywhere from $65k to $100k.

It's usually better to just ask people rather than using average salary data like this. Most people don't negotiate and get very standard offers.

papln
Do you mean inviduals should ask people, or reporters should do surveys?

It's a privilege to have access to people able, willing, and trustworthy to share their Facebook salary data.

Zaheer
I think there's still room for compiling aggregate salary data. I'm from levels.fyi and we get emails all the time about how folks were able to negotiate higher based on our data. We're entirely crowdsourced which admittingly can lead to accuracy issues occasionally. So far, feedback from both companies and users has been that are numbers are quite accurate. I think one of the most important features we recently released has been the Salary band pages which show the full spectrum of compensation at a particular level: https://www.levels.fyi/salary/Facebook/SE/E3/

I acknowledge we're not perfect, but would love feedback to help us improve. Majority of the site has been built based on feedback we've collected.

akhilcacharya
As a former new grad, the YoE and prior experience makes a difference in these aggregate numbers even within a particular level. If these were more granular it would be better, but it probably gets better with higher levels.
UMBReate
Somehow as per my experience, I feel quite different when it comes to trusting the same company, when I'm a user, and when I'm the employee. I find it easier to be an employee of the company that quite a few users find fishy, but I get it why some would trust it even less to be good to the workers that they pay, when they are bad to the users that pay them.
6cd6beb
Are people really interested in working for facebook in this climate?
rc_hadoken
Yes. Some people aren't so well off that they read the news and cut off a good income because of. Picture this: youre an engineer from africa and youve moved here at 23, think they give a damn about QQ facebook is immoral? Yeah I think not.
viklove
> youre an engineer from africa and youve moved here at 23

Do you really think this is a large demographic? 90%+ of Facebook's fresh hires are probably born and raised in the US.

theflyinghorse
I am knees deep in debt and have to take care of ill family member. More money solves 99.9% of my problems
rc_hadoken
Right? I'm getting downvoted but I can't stand it when people born in the west think their morals matter in the name of surviving and first generation success. Yeah downvote me, most people would STILL work for facebook me included. That's a damn good pay cheque.
jriot
I would not work at Facebook regardless of the paycheck. Granted I doubt they want a conservative veteran working for them so the feeling is mutual.
Nextgrid
Would you also be open to committing crimes (stealing, robberies, etc) if it improves your situation?

Facebook is doing large-scale fraud (dark patterns & deceiving users, among other things) stalking and profiting off malicious ads & scams. That’s criminal by my standards.

6cd6beb
Tech jobs are paying insane rates.

If you need to work at one of the top five tech giants in order to manage your debt then your story must be a catastrophic one.

mips_avatar
I’m pretty sure the stock grant is vested over 4 years. So quoting the full stock as year 1 compensation isn’t accurate.