Ask HN: Best office chair for home office work?

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I'm looking for an office chair that I can spend 6-10 hours a day in. Looking to spend under $500 if possible but I am open to suggestions. I really wish there was a service that I could test out an office chair for two weeks and return if it doesn't not perform as expected.

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The high end office chair companies will usually offer a try before buy deal.

The Aeron chairs by Herman Miller are popular in some re-insurance companies. I have used the Mirra 2 chair, but prefer the Aeron.

The Aeron, unless purchased used, probably won't fit in your budget, but breaking the budget on such an important item as this will probably be of value.

Embody is their newer model
+1 for the Embody, I love mine.

Try to get it on sale or something though, its stupid overpriced.

Agreed, I love my embody. Got it for $500 on craigslist in the bay area.
Wow, when I was working in a 24 hour control center, every desk has one of those Aeron charis.

I never knew they were THAT expensive

Finding used Aerons is surprisingly easy on Craigslist.
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Exercise ball. It's the only thing that makes me sit upright (my idea of correct is straightish back, relaxed shoulders) and it permits a great deal of hip fidgeting.
I like the Humanscale Freedom. Wouldn't swap mine for anything.
I’m on the Humanscale Diffrient World, and it’s a really nice chair that also fits the OP’s budget
I've got a Humanscale Freedom as-well. It's a great chair. Bought one for home after using one at my previous employer. Support has been amazing as-well. They've swapped out the gel seat once and the arm rests once due to regular wear-and-tear. This is on what's now a 14 year old chair.

For those recommending the Aeron - I've got one at my current job. What I don't like is that occasionally I like to sit with my leg folded under my body - fully acknowledge it's bad form, etc. but with the Aeron this is impossible due to the rigid plastic sides. For me, it's a deal-breaker for a chair I buy myself.

The Steelcase Leap is my personal favorite office chair of all time, but it retails for around $1,000.00. You can sometimes find them for cheaper if a company gets liquidated and is offloading their old equipment.
I regularly find refurbished liquidated Steelcase Leap v2 chairs in the Bay Area for between $250-350. Find a set of gel wheels on Amazon for $25 to replace the plastic casters and you've got a great chair. There's actually a used chair store right next to YC HQ in Mountain View.

That said, these days I slightly prefer the much cheaper Ikea Markus with the arm rests removed and angled at approx 135 deg.

+1 for Markus. I bought it as a chair to tide me over my senior year of college. Still using it right now.
Aerons

But you might also find dining chairs with good cushions & back support which don't have wheels to be a better choice because your body isn't swaying nor will you move about your place every now & then & re-center.

I'm personally a big fan of the Ikea Markus. Have tried much more expensive chairs and for some reason I prefer it.
Seconded.

I could have sit on it for 15 hours a day without problems. Other types of chairs caused back pain after only several hours.

I prefer the Ikea Malkolm which is also a tad cheaper.
I have the Ikea Markus at home and it's been fine, especially for a $200 chair. I use a Herman-Miller Aeron in my work office that I got when I was having back problems, and like it a lot ... but I've found the Markus to be a good solution given the cost disparity. I don't feel like I need to spend $1000 for my home office.
After going through a whole sequence of fancy office chairs, an exercise ball, a kneeling chair, and their odd ilk, I find my old (purchased in 1983) teak dining chair with arms and a wooden back and woven natural cord seat is the most comfortable for long stretches (4-5 hours).
Go second-hand. If you've had a good experience sitting on a particular chair in the past, consider one of those.

I'd sat in Aerons in workplaces, so I bought a second-hand one on Craiglist for about 50% of list price. It's still going strong 5 years later.

Be aware of the options. Aerons come with one of two forms of back brace (or neither) and in three sizes, for instance.

I think I got an aeron off cl for about 400 bucks about ten years ago and it’s still going strong. Compared to buying a new cheaper foam style every couple of years it’s way cheaper and more comfortable over the long haul.
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Yep, I got a second hand Aeron about 12 years ago, and I still use it happily, it's in perfect shape.
Ditto. I got a second-hand Aeron on CL - UCLA area seller, who at the time had a sideline in reconditioning Aerons. It was about $450. I've used it for ~10 years at home. The Aeron is good and I'd recommend this method of purchase.

In my case, I spent some time trying to optimize the price - finding that one desperate Aeron seller who'll let it go for $250. This turned out to be a waste of time. When I got a second one (rarely used) for another room, I just paid what appeared to be the going CL rate.

I had to replace the seat after a few years, but that's a standard part that you can order from Herman-Miller. I also replaced the casters last year for gel wheels that don't leave little marks on my floor (third party part in that case). I use the chair a lot and I have no complaints.

I sit on a Steelcase Leap at work (ordered new), and for me, it's not quite as good. But it's a small difference.

Can't recommend this option enough. I got a Steelcase Leap V2 from a used office furniture dealer for $200 or so after negotiating a bit. For another $50 or $75 they would have replaced the fabric as well but it didn't need it as it was in really good condition. They had Aerons and other chairs too but I liked the Leap better.
Good quality office chairs bought second is definitely the way to go - they are built solidly and well so they are usually in great condition.

I have a Hermann Miller Mirra 2, bought from https://studiomodern.co.uk in the UK. The Aeron is a 'design classic', so hasn't been iterated upon much. The Mirra has benefited from the experience though.

Also expect to spend a little time setting it up to start with, and then tweaking it until it's just right.

I can also second that: a 2nd hand Herman Miller Aeron that you've tested before making the purchase; one of the damn best investments you can make.

Have had mine for 6+ years now and it's outlived pretty much everything in my home office, save for a Dell U2713HM, which is still such a nice allrounder (27" 1440p IPS).

I would recommend the Dell P2415Q as a great allround monitor today. IPS panel, 4k, and displayport daisy-chaining support.
Oooh, at $429 from Dell, that's a nice 27" 4K at a nice price.
The P2415Q is a 24" monitor.

Also, I would recommend ignoring Dell's dual-monitor stand for these monitors (Dell MDS14 Dual Monitor Stand). It doesn't allow for the monitors to be angled inward very much at all, so the monitors are mostly parallel with each other.

My Aeron is ex-Enron after their bankruptcy, and is more like Theseus’s ship at this point with new arm pads, base mesh, and two new gas lifts since it was made in the late 90s. Parts are plentiful though, and Herman-Miller will send a tech to your office to fit and fix if you want to keep it official. Definitely recommended.
Herman Miller Aeron, spring for the headrest and soft wheels.
I have a Laura Davidson chair (clone of the Herman Miller Sayl)

https://www.lauradavidsondirect.com/products/bowery-manageme...

Some things are definitely not to the standard of the original (armrests) but the lumbar support and adjustments as well as the general fit are excellent for what I paid (~$200).

I had an armrest break and they sent me a new one the same day. And speaking to your request, they give you a 60 day trial.

I would buy another if I needed one. I spend 6+ hours in it regularly.

I have a Secret Lab Titan which I'm happy with. It's very comfortable and has good lower back support.

https://secretlab.co/collections/titan-series

I’ll second this! I bought the Titan about 6 months ago and it’s been amazing. I can use it for long work and gaming sessions and stay totally comfortable without any back or leg pain like I used to have with a previous chair. The lumbar support is also adjustable which is great.
Unlike a lot of people on HN, I don't like Herman Miller Aeron that was a gift from my parents & brother for my birthday few years ago. I find it to be very unforgettable to sit in it for a long time.
Depending on where you live, trying out an office chair for a while might be an option. I found a local office furniture store that sold Herman Miller (not a big box retailer, but one who sells to bigger companies), and was able to give them a credit card number and a drivers license and they let me borrow a few chairs to try out. I tried the Aeron for a week and then the Embody for a week. I ended up buying the Embody. I paid a little more than $500, I think it was more like $750. Totally worth it though, I expect to still be sitting in it in 20 years.

A note on the Aerons that lots of people have recommended: they come in three different sizes, something most people don’t realize since corporate buyers usually just buy the medium size. If your frame is larger or smaller than average (speaking of height here, not weight) then one of the other sizes might fit you better.

I can’t recommend the Embody enough though. I can sit in that chair for 10+ hours and not feel it. It’s an amazing chair.

True about the 3 sizes of Aerons. I'm 6'3, and find the vanilla Aeron (size "B") to work. If I was 6'4, I might feel differently, though, because I use it at its max adjustment.
Also worth pointing out that height recommendations are just a guideline and two people who are the same height might fit differently in the same chair. I’m the same height as you but I’m all leg. The larger Aeron fit me better.
I've had an embody for 8 years now. Best chair I've ever sat in, especially for coding. Second the recommendation!
I had Embody and I sold it after an year or two. Bought it trusting the "IT crowd" wisdom.

As with all the chairs, it's a very subjective matter. I think producers/models should not be recommended, as the body shapes vary too wildly.

What I think it's absolute though, is that they're grossly overpriced - new, they cost more than 1500$. When I went out for finding a replacement, somebody called that type of chair "boss" chair, that is, an expensive chair that stood out aesthetically.

I'm fine now on chair that doesn't look as good, but costs around 1/5th, and has the same durability, and as many (although different) options.

I can't recommend people enough not to accept recommendations ;-)

I bought a Herman Miller Aeron off eBay a few years ago while I was working remote. Until then I'd been experiencing pretty regular circulation and back issues (and I'm a relatively healthy person under 35). Now I have no pain and no circulation problems.

I ended up taking the Aeron to work when I took another office job, and bought a second-hand Steelcase Leap V2 for home. I like them both for different reasons. The Aeron is more comfortable over long sessions (which is why it is still at the office), but the Leap is still plenty comfortable and, to me, is more adjustable.

My only complaint about the Aeron is the front lip prevents me from _ever_ folding one of my legs under the other (sitting on my ankle, basically). The lip makes that particular position painful (and probably I should not be sitting that way, but not being able to is a bit limiting).

EDIT: Also seriously, go find a dealer near you and try some out. You'll know pretty quickly whether you want to spend 8 hours in the chair or not.

I got a Staples Hyken chair and couldn't be happier.
I second this for home. Great value, but not quite as nice as the Aaeron or Leap I've used at work.
Many areas have office liquidator types of places where you can get almost new Steelcase Leaps for $200-400. I got one for $250, it retired my Aeron, I find it to be much much better.
I'm sitting on a Mira right now and I have a Mira at work. I used to have an Aeron at work also so I would recommend either one.

I have used Steelcase chairs and those are great too.

Second handed Aeron. Also, no matter how good the chair is, you'll need to take breaks, get up and walk around every now and then. We're animals that require motion. Our bodies have simply not evolved to be sitting for long periods of time.

Finally, your chair is not the only component in being comfortable. I recently discovered that my knee pain was because my setup wasn't fined-tuned to my height. This website[1] helped me to tweak my setup and now the knee pain is gone.

[1]: http://www.computingcomfort.org/create2.asp

You can get the Aeron's on Ebay for under $500. After owning one for a while they are nice. Quality is decent but I think they're overrated for their "new" price. As with many popular things, you can search for the word followed by "sucks" to find plenty of legit complaints. The pressure under your thighs is the one I find the most annoying.

That said, I'm overall happy with my used one I own. I appreciate that it's popular enough that I can replace arm rests when they get worn out.

I have it paired with the Autonomous.ai standing desk frame, a cheap Amazon desktop & a cheap standing mat. I like this because sitting for 6-10 hours a day isn't ideal for me, but I understand for some people standing isn't an option.

I enjoy my setup more than any office one I've ever been in.

If you have pressure under your thighs, you might need some kind of footrest - it solved my problem entirely with my Aeron.
Steelcase Leap is an amazing chair, but more than $500 (or at least it was when I bought mine). I tried a bunch when I finally decided to upgrade from the $200 Staples chairs that wear out in a year and found this one the most comfortable by far. Have used it for a few years now with absolutely no complaints.
Steelcase furniture can be bought at pennies on the dollar at office space auctions.

In fact in many places companies hold “clearing sales” to clear the office space from any furniture due to the high costs of disposing of the furnishings when their tenancy ends or when they sale the building.

I bought a Steelcase workstation desk complex that costs around £3000 in the UK for £257 at an auction such as that.

Out of interest, how do you find such auctions in the UK?
Honestly I used google e.g. https://www.bidspotter.co.uk/en-gb/auction-catalogues/bpi-as...

Just search for office auctions UK, I don't remember which of the sites I finally used to get the desk from I went through about 10 of those.

P.S. Just be careful of the sites that charge you money for getting a collections of listings, these have their value for resellers but not for casual buyers.

How do you find those auctions? Is there a website with a schedule of them?
I've also had decent luck on Craigslist. (ymmv, my Craigslist is close enough to SV where the availability is there)
Google for your local area, there are like 100's of these sites in the UK in fact there are sites that charge you money just to send you a list of bankruptcy, police, customs seizures etc. auctions.
In some places there are entire wholesale businesses that operate on this model. For instance, in Austin there is a place you can go that resells pretty much every office furniture that you can get from cannibalizing these auctions. http://www.topstexas.com/

They don’t always have the color you want, but I got a basically new condition Steelcase Leap there for less than half of what it retails for.

Hah yeah bought my Arron at Tops almost a decade ago. If anyone is in the Austin area, I would highly recommend checking them out if only to get a feel for the range of high-end inventory.
I will second this. I used a cheap (<$200) Staples office chair when I started working from home. My reward for cheaping out on this was painful back problems. I eventually gave in and bought a Steelcase Leap, and the back problems quickly went away. So my advice is, there are lots of places where it makes sense to pinch pennies, but this ain't one of them.

Plus, Steelcase customer support is excellent. A couple of years after I bought my Leap, the gas cylinder that controls the height of the chair broke and started dragging on the floor whenever I moved the chair. I contacted Steelcase to see if there was some way to fix it, or to get a replacement cylinder. Steelcase's response was to send me a completely new Leap, without me having to do anything other than show my proof of purchase to demonstrate the chair was still in warranty. That is some seriously above-and-beyond customer support.

For a while I preferred Herman Millers. But after spending a year with Steelcase chairs I discovered that Leap is the most comfortable and least fatigue inducing chair for me. I even liked that its seat holds its angle - unlike swivelling seats of HM chairs. Fortunately, Madison Seating sells used Leaps for less than $300 in perfect condition so I got one for home too instead of a previous favourite from Herman Miller.
One caveat with Madison Seating (and similar shops) is that they refurbish the chairs and they typically do not use OE parts.
What is the practical significance of that fact? Will the chair fail earlier?
Interesting. Who designs and makes non-OE parts for Steelcase chairs? It doesn't seem that the market is that big...
When I started studying lifehacker.com was still a good blog. Their roundups mentioned Herman Miller Aeron and Steelcase Leap. I had a normal 0815 office chair from my work at home. A PHD student I knew had the leap at home because of back problems. When he decided to move away from Germany, he sold his office Leap to his boss and asked around who wanted his home one. I paid 300€ ($336.8 currently) after trying it. Sitting on it just for a few minutes convinced me and I've never sat on a comparable chair anywhere else since then (still using it after over 5 years)
After trying a number of chairs I settled on the first-gen Leap. It was far more comfortable for me than the Aeron or others I tested.

I'm still using it today, almost 18 years later. It's held up incredibly well. The fabric shows only the faintest signs of wear. A few years ago, the gas height-adjusting strut failed, and the Steelcase tech drove an hour to my house and replaced it. He also replaced the armrest caps as well - all for free.

You cannot go wrong with most Herman Miller chairs. I originally started researching chairs because I have was having severe back pain. After several doctors appointments I found the cause, my old Ikea chair. I ended up going with the Mirra 2 and fell in love with it. It completely solved my back pain within two months. The price can be off-putting so I recommend checking out Design Within Reach's outlets (owned by Herman Miller) where you can get Aeron's and Mirra 2's for half off. Hope this helps.
A Lazy Boy recliner, a hospital bedside table and a bookcase as a unit, is perfect if you don't have to get up and down much.
Perhaps an uncomfortable chair would be actually better, because it will nudge you in the direction of taking breaks more? I think office chairs are a rabbit hole just like mechanical keyboards are. Many people will be comfortable with the cheap option, while others will tell you you're risking your health by not going for the highend option.
I understand what you are saying, but that's optimising for the 10% of time you aren't using the chair.

In the software world I would have to question the wiseness of that decision. But I wouldn't erase from the whiteboard without a discussion.

Listening to your body when it tells you to move is a very wise thing to do indeed, but it should never be relied upon to guide your behaviour. Because you will eventually just put up with it. And you neck, back, shoulders will suffer.

One of the under appreciated aspects of chair buying, in my opinion of course, is what you weigh. Generally the materials and construction which expect to flex and conform do so within a set of limits that the chair designer had but may not have put into the spec. You can both be too light for a chair and too heavy. That is why actually sitting in the chair is something you might want to spend some time doing if you can.

I use a $200 mesh back chair that I got from Wayfair back in the day, it works well for me. I tried it at a chair retailer in SF and decided to get one. I've found the Herman Miller chairs too stiff at times, but given the adjustability I admit I have not sat down on a chair and spent the 30 - 45 minutes of "tuning" that such an exercise takes using the manual.

When I was at Google I took their "ergo eval" which at the time did an ergonomics check for chair, mouse, keyboard, and monitor height. They recommended a Steel Case chair which I used, and it was comfortable, but it wasn't specially more comfortable than my cheap chair as far as I can tell.

I really agree with factoring weight (and size) into the choice, which can ruin an otherwise great chair.

While I like Herman Miller (especially Embody), I am really opinionated about chairs. After trying zillions, I think those chairs that are quite firm and promote active seating and position variety are the best ones.

There is a quite famous Norwegian designer, Peter Opsvik, who has designed a few great chairs for Håg and Varier: Capisco, Gravity, Actulum, etc. All his ideas are well explained in a book [1]. Basic models are relatively affordable.

Aside from the Scandinavian chairs from Opsvik, Aeris produces some nice active seating chairs and stools. Other alternatives are mentioned in this mega review [2].

Very recently, Ikea has released a stool that follows the same active seating principles [3]. Quality and price are superb.

[1] https://www.aeris.de/en/

[2] https://www.nerdgranny.com/review-ergonomic-chairs/

[3] https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/trollberget-active-sit-stand-su...