Ask HN: Best office chair for home office work?
I'm looking for an office chair that I can spend 6-10 hours a day in. Looking to spend under $500 if possible but I am open to suggestions. I really wish there was a service that I could test out an office chair for two weeks and return if it doesn't not perform as expected.
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[ 4.9 ms ] story [ 193 ms ] threadThe Aeron chairs by Herman Miller are popular in some re-insurance companies. I have used the Mirra 2 chair, but prefer the Aeron.
The Aeron, unless purchased used, probably won't fit in your budget, but breaking the budget on such an important item as this will probably be of value.
Try to get it on sale or something though, its stupid overpriced.
I never knew they were THAT expensive
For those recommending the Aeron - I've got one at my current job. What I don't like is that occasionally I like to sit with my leg folded under my body - fully acknowledge it's bad form, etc. but with the Aeron this is impossible due to the rigid plastic sides. For me, it's a deal-breaker for a chair I buy myself.
That said, these days I slightly prefer the much cheaper Ikea Markus with the arm rests removed and angled at approx 135 deg.
But you might also find dining chairs with good cushions & back support which don't have wheels to be a better choice because your body isn't swaying nor will you move about your place every now & then & re-center.
I could have sit on it for 15 hours a day without problems. Other types of chairs caused back pain after only several hours.
I'd sat in Aerons in workplaces, so I bought a second-hand one on Craiglist for about 50% of list price. It's still going strong 5 years later.
Be aware of the options. Aerons come with one of two forms of back brace (or neither) and in three sizes, for instance.
In my case, I spent some time trying to optimize the price - finding that one desperate Aeron seller who'll let it go for $250. This turned out to be a waste of time. When I got a second one (rarely used) for another room, I just paid what appeared to be the going CL rate.
I had to replace the seat after a few years, but that's a standard part that you can order from Herman-Miller. I also replaced the casters last year for gel wheels that don't leave little marks on my floor (third party part in that case). I use the chair a lot and I have no complaints.
I sit on a Steelcase Leap at work (ordered new), and for me, it's not quite as good. But it's a small difference.
I have a Hermann Miller Mirra 2, bought from https://studiomodern.co.uk in the UK. The Aeron is a 'design classic', so hasn't been iterated upon much. The Mirra has benefited from the experience though.
Also expect to spend a little time setting it up to start with, and then tweaking it until it's just right.
Have had mine for 6+ years now and it's outlived pretty much everything in my home office, save for a Dell U2713HM, which is still such a nice allrounder (27" 1440p IPS).
Also, I would recommend ignoring Dell's dual-monitor stand for these monitors (Dell MDS14 Dual Monitor Stand). It doesn't allow for the monitors to be angled inward very much at all, so the monitors are mostly parallel with each other.
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Some things are definitely not to the standard of the original (armrests) but the lumbar support and adjustments as well as the general fit are excellent for what I paid (~$200).
I had an armrest break and they sent me a new one the same day. And speaking to your request, they give you a 60 day trial.
I would buy another if I needed one. I spend 6+ hours in it regularly.
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A note on the Aerons that lots of people have recommended: they come in three different sizes, something most people don’t realize since corporate buyers usually just buy the medium size. If your frame is larger or smaller than average (speaking of height here, not weight) then one of the other sizes might fit you better.
I can’t recommend the Embody enough though. I can sit in that chair for 10+ hours and not feel it. It’s an amazing chair.
As with all the chairs, it's a very subjective matter. I think producers/models should not be recommended, as the body shapes vary too wildly.
What I think it's absolute though, is that they're grossly overpriced - new, they cost more than 1500$. When I went out for finding a replacement, somebody called that type of chair "boss" chair, that is, an expensive chair that stood out aesthetically.
I'm fine now on chair that doesn't look as good, but costs around 1/5th, and has the same durability, and as many (although different) options.
I can't recommend people enough not to accept recommendations ;-)
I ended up taking the Aeron to work when I took another office job, and bought a second-hand Steelcase Leap V2 for home. I like them both for different reasons. The Aeron is more comfortable over long sessions (which is why it is still at the office), but the Leap is still plenty comfortable and, to me, is more adjustable.
My only complaint about the Aeron is the front lip prevents me from _ever_ folding one of my legs under the other (sitting on my ankle, basically). The lip makes that particular position painful (and probably I should not be sitting that way, but not being able to is a bit limiting).
EDIT: Also seriously, go find a dealer near you and try some out. You'll know pretty quickly whether you want to spend 8 hours in the chair or not.
I have used Steelcase chairs and those are great too.
Finally, your chair is not the only component in being comfortable. I recently discovered that my knee pain was because my setup wasn't fined-tuned to my height. This website[1] helped me to tweak my setup and now the knee pain is gone.
[1]: http://www.computingcomfort.org/create2.asp
That said, I'm overall happy with my used one I own. I appreciate that it's popular enough that I can replace arm rests when they get worn out.
I have it paired with the Autonomous.ai standing desk frame, a cheap Amazon desktop & a cheap standing mat. I like this because sitting for 6-10 hours a day isn't ideal for me, but I understand for some people standing isn't an option.
I enjoy my setup more than any office one I've ever been in.
In fact in many places companies hold “clearing sales” to clear the office space from any furniture due to the high costs of disposing of the furnishings when their tenancy ends or when they sale the building.
I bought a Steelcase workstation desk complex that costs around £3000 in the UK for £257 at an auction such as that.
Just search for office auctions UK, I don't remember which of the sites I finally used to get the desk from I went through about 10 of those.
P.S. Just be careful of the sites that charge you money for getting a collections of listings, these have their value for resellers but not for casual buyers.
They don’t always have the color you want, but I got a basically new condition Steelcase Leap there for less than half of what it retails for.
Plus, Steelcase customer support is excellent. A couple of years after I bought my Leap, the gas cylinder that controls the height of the chair broke and started dragging on the floor whenever I moved the chair. I contacted Steelcase to see if there was some way to fix it, or to get a replacement cylinder. Steelcase's response was to send me a completely new Leap, without me having to do anything other than show my proof of purchase to demonstrate the chair was still in warranty. That is some seriously above-and-beyond customer support.
I'm still using it today, almost 18 years later. It's held up incredibly well. The fabric shows only the faintest signs of wear. A few years ago, the gas height-adjusting strut failed, and the Steelcase tech drove an hour to my house and replaced it. He also replaced the armrest caps as well - all for free.
In the software world I would have to question the wiseness of that decision. But I wouldn't erase from the whiteboard without a discussion.
Listening to your body when it tells you to move is a very wise thing to do indeed, but it should never be relied upon to guide your behaviour. Because you will eventually just put up with it. And you neck, back, shoulders will suffer.
I use a $200 mesh back chair that I got from Wayfair back in the day, it works well for me. I tried it at a chair retailer in SF and decided to get one. I've found the Herman Miller chairs too stiff at times, but given the adjustability I admit I have not sat down on a chair and spent the 30 - 45 minutes of "tuning" that such an exercise takes using the manual.
When I was at Google I took their "ergo eval" which at the time did an ergonomics check for chair, mouse, keyboard, and monitor height. They recommended a Steel Case chair which I used, and it was comfortable, but it wasn't specially more comfortable than my cheap chair as far as I can tell.
While I like Herman Miller (especially Embody), I am really opinionated about chairs. After trying zillions, I think those chairs that are quite firm and promote active seating and position variety are the best ones.
There is a quite famous Norwegian designer, Peter Opsvik, who has designed a few great chairs for Håg and Varier: Capisco, Gravity, Actulum, etc. All his ideas are well explained in a book [1]. Basic models are relatively affordable.
Aside from the Scandinavian chairs from Opsvik, Aeris produces some nice active seating chairs and stools. Other alternatives are mentioned in this mega review [2].
Very recently, Ikea has released a stool that follows the same active seating principles [3]. Quality and price are superb.
[1] https://www.aeris.de/en/
[2] https://www.nerdgranny.com/review-ergonomic-chairs/
[3] https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/trollberget-active-sit-stand-su...