Ought to be a wake up call to the progressives, particularly in SV and the other tech hubs where are a lot of Asians. Expecting Asians to tolerate being treated as second class citizens in affirmative action programs is a recipe for disaster.
No, it's not that they're presently worried about being treated as second class, it's that they're presently successful in getting their own children into the specialty high schools.
IE, they are against affirmative action because non Chinese would get increased numbers of limited student slots, and therefore there would be less Chinese attending.
They're the "Chinese Right" because they are looking out for "their" own interests and working against progressive policies just like the GOP.
One wonders if they've read the news about Trump... I'm sure despite their support he'd happily exile them along with the rest of the non white people in the US if he could.
But they are not second class citizens, they are completely over represented in high paying jobs, elite schools and what not. This is mainly an argument to make the playing field in a way which favors their style of culture (hardcore work ethic, to the exclusion of balance) to even a higher degree. Look at Asia, which is a supposed meritocracy when it comes to exams, a single exam determines the entire life of a person for the most part, don't know about you but to me that is not the type of country i want america to become.
Have you not heard of the Protestant Work Ethic? and how Europeans complain that Americans work too much, and don't all have 6 weeks vacation?
Asians have been discriminated against, but instead of whining about it they got to work to become the best. Now they're being punished for not sitting around waiting for handouts.
But they are not being punished! They are extremely represented (except for politics), much more than their population would indicate. The amount of Asians I've seen in elite schools like Harvard, Berkeley, Stanford is just mind blowing. Pure "merit" based would be a system which would solely rely on test scores/grades, which would give enormous advantage to people raised by "tiger parents." Elite schools are ideally made to find potential talents with the ability to impact society in a big way through original contributions, these people are not always the people with the best examination scores.
They are being punished by setting the bar higher for them based on ethnicity. So for an asian, you have to be the tigerest of tigers to get admitted, making the problem you describe even worse.
The strategy adapted by the Chinese, due to their small numbers, was to work harder than the next group. Only now are the number of Chinese significant enough to mount a political challenge to the status quo.
Blacks, for all their problems, have the votes to change the system electorally. But while there have been some success, there are strong oppositions from the status quo, and their progress has been hampered by political apathy from within that resulted from push back that slowed or killed further progress.
> This is mainly an argument to make the playing field in a way which favors their style of culture (hardcore work ethic, to the exclusion of balance) to even a higher degree.
Aren't progressives supposed to be in favor of diversity of cultures? Whether they are or not, a hardcore work ethic is hardly what most Americans would consider to be a problem.
I found this quote especially pertinent to the story overall.
> They worried that such a bill would direct government funding to less-established Asian groups.
They were not worried about the privacy aspects, but that others could get aid. Essentially, a lot of what I'm seeing is an attempt to entrench their own base at the cost of the other less fortunate minority groups. Which, well, crabs-in-a-pot mentality never really ends up working out that well.
It is perfectly right and just that these Chinese people are looking out for their interest. That's democracy in action. The problem is that, IMHO, that they just don't understand Donald Trump's agenda or the GOP's agenda. Since Chinese people will always be out numbered in America, they will find out the hard way when shit hits the fan...
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[ 3.5 ms ] story [ 51.2 ms ] threadIE, they are against affirmative action because non Chinese would get increased numbers of limited student slots, and therefore there would be less Chinese attending.
They're the "Chinese Right" because they are looking out for "their" own interests and working against progressive policies just like the GOP.
One wonders if they've read the news about Trump... I'm sure despite their support he'd happily exile them along with the rest of the non white people in the US if he could.
Have you not heard of the Protestant Work Ethic? and how Europeans complain that Americans work too much, and don't all have 6 weeks vacation?
Asians have been discriminated against, but instead of whining about it they got to work to become the best. Now they're being punished for not sitting around waiting for handouts.
Blacks, for all their problems, have the votes to change the system electorally. But while there have been some success, there are strong oppositions from the status quo, and their progress has been hampered by political apathy from within that resulted from push back that slowed or killed further progress.
Aren't progressives supposed to be in favor of diversity of cultures? Whether they are or not, a hardcore work ethic is hardly what most Americans would consider to be a problem.
> They worried that such a bill would direct government funding to less-established Asian groups.
They were not worried about the privacy aspects, but that others could get aid. Essentially, a lot of what I'm seeing is an attempt to entrench their own base at the cost of the other less fortunate minority groups. Which, well, crabs-in-a-pot mentality never really ends up working out that well.