Ask HN: I have a 6th-grade education. Should I hide this in interviews?
At 16 I started earning enough to live on, doing something on my own that was tangentially related to software, math, logic (keeping it vague to protect id). I did that for a number of years, then became interested in programming and a lot of those skills transferred over very well.
I got a formal software job years ago, and have since held a few positions, including senior engineering positions, at some small- and mid-size Bay Area tech companies.
Now I'm being invited to on-sites at bigger companies (Google, FB, Amazon, etc).
I used to be ashamed, but at this point, my academic history has become something I'm actually very proud of. Someday, I would like to be open and "out" about it, but I don't know when (or if) it will ever be safe for me to do that.
It seems like the kind of thing that should be mentioned during the interview process, not after. So my question is: How significantly would this reduce my likelihood of receiving an offer from a major tech company?
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[ 2.4 ms ] story [ 18.9 ms ] threadBeing self-taught as a programmer myself, and knowing what’s involved in that, I’m a little bit in awe of anyone who managed to learn programming with no more than an elementary school formal education. I can’t speak for random FAANG interviewers, but hopefully they’ll also be suitably impressed.
Maybe save it to share until you’ve already wowed them with your skills, rather than sharing up front, which might cause them to evaluate you based on biases or stereotypes?
At the interview stage I expect it would not even come up.
I wouldn't boast about it either though.
Nice work, good luck at the interviews.
So rather than fret over when the last time you sat in a classroom was... Be proud and confident of who you are, what you have accomplished, and what you will accomplish in the future.
But it depends on who you're talking to I guess. You'll have to gauge their openmindedness for yourself.
I got a GED in 1991, in lieu of traditional high school graduation. I'd been in foster care. Once I'd been in college, the pre-college educational history no longer matters.
Since I finished my degree in 2013 (finally!) that I'd started in 1991… anything before it is irrelevant. There may be an outlier company where this doesn't apply, but I feel like that's the exception and not the rule.
You're golden. If you've done it on the job, most people don't care what your formal education is. (Some do care. Ignore them.)
That said if you want to become a vigilante for "how to be successful with bad childhood and no education" - that might work really well.
The current process of decadence and decline of the US is a direct consequence of the collapse of education
But I would only talk about it if I had to. When I go to interviews, even though that I have a BS in CS, I don't talk about it, it's already on my CV and people should know it. As I'm a Senior/Lead whatever developer with many years of experience, that makes no difference whatsoever. Because even my deep knowledge I've learned in CS about B-tree algorithms already has been mostly forgotten and can be revived only by Googling it a few minutes, and if I'm preparing for a interview, I'll review it... and those things are better proven live(in a whiteboard or in a coding challenge) than with a Diploma(which very rarely they will ask).
Do 10 interviews. 5 of which you hide this fact to the best of your ability, and the other 5 embrace it as a positive part of your history.
You don't have to wait for a call back, you should just be able to read the interviewer's expression as you tell him this.
And again, it depends upon how you sell it. If you sell yourself as "damaged goods", you probably won't get an offer. If on the other hand you sell yourself as someone who has "overcome" a terrible life story, it might work in your favor, and you never know, it might open doors you wouldn't expect to open.