If you can't see that some kind of fuckery went on here, I feel sorry for you. In this incident we publicly witnessed a major Federal case that stood a good chance of bringing down a lot of corrupt people end up nowhere. This is not just some grand coincidence. It can't possibly happen that conveniently for the the powerful people involved. Nobody is that lucky, nobody.
What this shows us is that the US is rotten to the core. If we don't get off our asses and fix this 3rd World bullshit, your standard of living is headed in only one direction--down. Because if the people in charge of us can do something so blatant and get away with it, then what other bold moves will they decide they can get away with? Mass murder? "Oh, it was an industrial accident, nothing to see here, move along."
To my mind, the tell about how corrupt this incident was is that the media immediately got their narrative straight and began the propaganda campaign to malign and discredit anyone who asks questions. "Nothing to see here, move along." Total bs. Infuriating incompetence (on purpose) on the part of the Federal Government.
I'll tell you another truth and I know this first hand because I used to live in NY State and was involved with local government: The crooks figured out they could get elected there and do as they please. I personally witnessed it. I saw how a mayor was also a "made man" and ran both sides of the table for years. It's sickening the corruption that goes on there. I'm sad to say I was also lightly involved in it because I didn't know what was going on right away.
Specific conspiracy theories aside, it’s unsurprising that a lot of people - hell, even I! - find the course of events surprising.
The man had a dubious source of income, was offered an incredibly irregular plea deal, all sorts of theories abounded about his having information on other connected people, attempted suicide in jail, was (surprisingly) taken _off_ suicide watch, and then died conveniently. Seems like quite the chain of coincidences.
Also why reasonable people won't believe it either. i.e. high level pedophile who is known to attempt suicide is allowed to commit suicide. I mean there are many ways to keep people from committing suicide including straight jackets, various drugs, watching them continuously. Most "conspiracy theorists" already theorized this was going to happen when he was arrested, why was it allowed to happen?
> On July 23, Epstein was found injured and semiconscious at 1:30 a.m. on the floor of his cell, with marks around his neck that were suspected to be from a suicide attempt or an assault. His cellmate, former New York City police officer Nicholas Tartaglione, who is charged with four counts of murder, was questioned about Epstein's condition. He denied knowledge of what happened. Epstein said he recollected nothing.[134][142][143][144] According to NBC News, two sources said that Epstein might have tried to hang himself, a third said the injuries were not serious and could have been staged, while a fourth source said that an assault by his cellmate had not been ruled out.[68]
Given the ubiquity of surveillance in our society I have reached the conclusion that any time there is a high profile case where there's a conspicuous lack of surveillance evidence I operate under the assumption that it was intentional.
Top reasons anyone with more than three brain cells to rub together will never believe an "Epstein killed himself entirely of his own volition and with no outside help or encouragement" story:
1.) We'll never be given a satisfactory explanation for why Epstein was not under redundant 24/7 surveillance (because there can't be one).
2.) The trail will go cold in the ongoing SDNY conspiracy investigation, and even if more details come out from the victims or court documents, none of the high profile people who were implicated in his sex trafficking ring like Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, or Alan Dershowitz, will see any consequences or be held accountable in any way for their crimes.
3.) Point 2.) notwithstanding, the release of an unending series of bizarre and inexplicable details about Epstein and his life will probably continue, in which power-worshipping news outlets like The Atlantic will show no interest whatsoever.
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[ 3.0 ms ] story [ 31.8 ms ] threadI don’t think the notion of official account is even possible? Generally accepted account? Sure.
What this shows us is that the US is rotten to the core. If we don't get off our asses and fix this 3rd World bullshit, your standard of living is headed in only one direction--down. Because if the people in charge of us can do something so blatant and get away with it, then what other bold moves will they decide they can get away with? Mass murder? "Oh, it was an industrial accident, nothing to see here, move along."
To my mind, the tell about how corrupt this incident was is that the media immediately got their narrative straight and began the propaganda campaign to malign and discredit anyone who asks questions. "Nothing to see here, move along." Total bs. Infuriating incompetence (on purpose) on the part of the Federal Government.
I'll tell you another truth and I know this first hand because I used to live in NY State and was involved with local government: The crooks figured out they could get elected there and do as they please. I personally witnessed it. I saw how a mayor was also a "made man" and ran both sides of the table for years. It's sickening the corruption that goes on there. I'm sad to say I was also lightly involved in it because I didn't know what was going on right away.
The man had a dubious source of income, was offered an incredibly irregular plea deal, all sorts of theories abounded about his having information on other connected people, attempted suicide in jail, was (surprisingly) taken _off_ suicide watch, and then died conveniently. Seems like quite the chain of coincidences.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Second_crimina...
Even this looks highly suspicious :
> On July 23, Epstein was found injured and semiconscious at 1:30 a.m. on the floor of his cell, with marks around his neck that were suspected to be from a suicide attempt or an assault. His cellmate, former New York City police officer Nicholas Tartaglione, who is charged with four counts of murder, was questioned about Epstein's condition. He denied knowledge of what happened. Epstein said he recollected nothing.[134][142][143][144] According to NBC News, two sources said that Epstein might have tried to hang himself, a third said the injuries were not serious and could have been staged, while a fourth source said that an assault by his cellmate had not been ruled out.[68]
1.) We'll never be given a satisfactory explanation for why Epstein was not under redundant 24/7 surveillance (because there can't be one).
2.) The trail will go cold in the ongoing SDNY conspiracy investigation, and even if more details come out from the victims or court documents, none of the high profile people who were implicated in his sex trafficking ring like Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, or Alan Dershowitz, will see any consequences or be held accountable in any way for their crimes.
3.) Point 2.) notwithstanding, the release of an unending series of bizarre and inexplicable details about Epstein and his life will probably continue, in which power-worshipping news outlets like The Atlantic will show no interest whatsoever.