Ask HN: Best resources to gain math intuition?
In high school I did the lowest tier maths and then jumped in the deep end by doing a year of electrical engineering. I’ve now done those harder math classes but I feel like there’s holes here and there. I think when I took physics it really brought out these flaws and lack of intuition.
Would anyone have a good resource for building this up?
Thanks
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https://www.betterworldbooks.com/product/detail/How-to-Solve...
[0] https://www.amazon.com/Pure-Mathematics-Beginners-Rigorous-I...
[1] https://www.people.vcu.edu/~rhammack/BookOfProof/
https://betterexplained.com/articles/intuitive-understanding...
[0] https://betterexplained.com/articles/adjective-fallacy/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYO_jab_esuFRV4b17AJtAw
It’s on another level imo.
I'd love to filter the internet by "content that can give you insights right now that would otherwise take years of study in a specific discipline to even know exists".
Another that I saw recently on an HN comment (thanks tptacek) is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfY0lrdXar8
A quick google for "3blue1brown awesome github" (my usual strategy for finding good similar content) landed me here: https://github.com/rossant/awesome-math
The awesome lists are pretty good starting points for finding good content, but there's a ton of them of variable quality, so you end up with stuff like this: https://github.com/jonatasbaldin/awesome-awesome-awesome (which has 68 forks...)
His whole channel is also on LBRY if you don't like YouTube https://beta.lbry.tv/@3Blue1Brown
[0] https://www.amazon.com/Programmers-Introduction-Mathematics-...
Alternatively if you're really interested in intuition, you could also look at the Math Olympiads. Pick a problem, beat your head on it, finally look at the solution, repeat. There are web sites and prep books.
At the high school and college level, the Olympiads for math and CS are pretty analogous. But there's really popular semi-formal coding contests which exist outside academia which don't really have a math equivalent.
I'd say math contests are more popular among high schoolers, and semi-formal coding contests more popular among college students.
Art of Problem Solving (AoPS) [https://artofproblemsolving.com/] is a really good resource, and there's a very healthy online community.
They're also similar in how olympiads are different from the "real thing" (TM).
Academia.SE discussion about this [https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/86451/does-the-...]
As someone who did math olympiads in high school, my 2 cents is that they're a fantastic way to learn how to solve and approach problems and gain intuition. And I'd say intuition mainly comes from solving problems.
http://immersivemath.com/ila/index.html
There's a linear algebra lurking everywhere in the realm of applied math (some people like to joke that machine learning is really just linear algebra) so it really is worth your time to have a firm understanding of it.
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/search.php?req=proofs+without+words
However, you have written
> I think when I took physics it really brought out these flaws and lack of intuition
which suggests you have some good practical experience with physics problem solving which has precipitated a certain feeling that you need to learn more about some kind of math. I would advise that you try to exploit this. In the same breath I want to recognize (as someone who did their BS and MS in physics) that physicists are not always so careful or explicit in how they are doing their mathematics. So learning means eventually going beyond physics sources and into a much wider world of mathematical thought. The particular things that mathematicians care about may or may not be relevant to the problem you are trying to solve in physics, and a good part of developing that intuition is to figure out which particular caveats that a mathematician expounds upon (more often than not, some esoterica about the space(s) that they are working in or the class of isomorphisms under which their results are invariant) matter physically. As you develop and intuition about these things a bonus is that you will be able to skim through mathematics resources much faster.
May be it is distinct from others, may be you will not be 'narrowing' to the right answer within seconds -- like many folks who do Olympiads...
Just do basic things, but every other day. Get books/materials that have solutions (not just problems). use those, compare your results, and then try again.
If you feel like you do not understand 'why', you will need a particular subject area. Switch to read about applications of that area, how historically it came about and so.
And then back to problem solving, proofs, and reading other people's papers (when you can..).
It is hard work, but over time you will build up your version of the so called intuition, it will be powerful, you will be able to apply it all over the place.
Also there are a number of math forums where you can reach out, if you are really stuck and cannot figure out how a particular proof, or solution was obtained.
Another part of intuition is from Max Zorn (from Zorn's lemma statement of the axiom of choice):
"Be wise, generalize."
E.g., for the set of real numbers R and a positive integer n, a lot that goes on in the n-dimensional vector space R^n is a generalization of what can see in 3D, e.g., from solid geometry.
E.g., in both cases, a biggie is a perpendicular (orthogonal) projection and, again, the Pythagorean theorem. E.g., regression in statistics is a perpendicular projection.
Perpendicular (orthogonality) is a biggie and is a major part of, say, Fourier series. I.e., each of the sine/cosine waves used is an orthogonal axis, and to find the corresponding Fourier series coefficient just project onto that axis. The projection is an integral of a product, and that is commonly an inner product which close to just a cosine of an angle as in plane and solid geometry and a perpendicular projection and close to correlation in statistics, etc.
E.g., a huge fraction of applied math is from analysis in pure math, and from G. F. Simmons the two pillars of analysis are "continuity and linearity". Linearity generalizes enormously: The quantum mechanics super position is essentially linearity. Under meager assumptions, differentiation and integration in calculus are linear operators. In probability theory, expectation is a linear operator. The wave equation is a linear partial differential equation. Linear programming works on linear equations. Of course, in linear algebra, matrix multiplication is a linear operator. When something is not linear, it may be locally linear which can be enough to get useful results.
For more, a good lesson is to approximate: Commonly we can't get just what we want in just one step but can iterate and approximate as closely as we please. So, can use simple things, sine waves, polynomials, continuous functions, and more, as means of approximation. Such approximation gets us close to more in continuity and, in particular, completeness -- the real numbers are complete and the rational numbers are not but via iteration can approximate the reals as closely as we please. Then this generalizes: The big point about Hilbert space (as mathematicians but not always physicists define it) is completeness. A joke, partly correct, is that "calculus is the elementary consequences of the completeness property of the real number system". E.g., the integral in calculus (and its better version in measure theory) is defined in terms of an iterative approximation. So, if you are good with sine waves, polynomials, continuous functions, wavelets, and more, then you can iterate and approximate a lot, in many cases, everything there is in that case.
I got my undergrad in math and physics. I was good at math. It wasn't until I had been teaching high school for 3-4 years when some gave me a copy of Shortcut Math by Gerard Kelly. After reading it and practicing the techniques, arithmetic made so much sense. I was able to easily add, subtract, and multiply larger numbers in my head.
Interestingly enough, many of the techniques taught in this book are also part of the common core math curriculum. It's a way to help students gain number sense.
I think that the way to get math intuition is to learn a mathematical language, like Julia, and play around with it. Plot things. Change parameters.
Also learn a theorem prover. Maybe Agda or Coq or Lean.
I think it can also be helpful to learn some things about the history of math and the historical context that different ideas came from. Here's a nice example covering complex numbers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T647CGsuOVU
Maybe tangential to your ends, but the Crest of the Peacock is a nice book on non-European mathematical traditions, which provides some insight into how the process of establishing and validating mathematical knowledge works in other cultures.
You might try books written by physicists or that are about mathematical physics (an author to look out for depending on your level is VI Arnold), since arguments will be of a more geometric or physical nature and appeal more to intuition. Stillwell is another author (not a physicist) that tends to write books that give context and geometric intuition
You might like playing around with Pinter & Humphreys for Algebra, or Jänich for Topology (fantastic book for building intuition around topology).
[0] Mathematical Proofs: A Transition to Advanced Mathematics https://g.co/kgs/stSmxJ
A common theme I have noticed is whatever it is, getting a geometric understanding of it aids intuition significantly. Others have mentioned the 3Blue1Brown videos. They are an excellent example of this.
These HN threads always bear out great resources and I've made note of (and acquired) a few of these, so I'll list them here.
Burn Maths Class - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26195956-burn-math-class
Book of Proof - https://www.people.vcu.edu/~rhammack/BookOfProof/
The Topology Of Numbers (number theory)- http://pi.math.cornell.edu/~hatcher/TN/TNpage.html
The Evolution of Trust (game theory) - https://ncase.me/trust/
Visual Information Theory - https://colah.github.io/posts/2015-09-Visual-Information/
Information Theory For Smarties - http://tuvalu.santafe.edu/~simon/it.pdf
Abstract Algebra - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLi01XoE8jYoi3SgnnGorR...
Algebra Cheatsheet - https://argumatronic.com/posts/2019-06-21-algebra-cheatsheet...
Control Theory Basics - https://www.youtube.com/user/ControlLectures/playlists
I asked this a few weeks ago but at an off peak time and not many folks saw the question. But I know HN probably has good recommendations so trying again here. Should still be relevant and helpful to OP.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20733422
Shoot an email over to codertutor@gmail.com or text or call +1-718-360-3176 if you are interested or if you have any questions.
This is my print flyer for reference: https://i.imgur.com/Gdwa7m9.png
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Im sort of taking the approach of learning the definitions of things via Anki in a real exploratory way. Just read about something that takes my fancy then I keep finding I run into definitions I've learned before and this time something that was previously gibberish made more and more sense.
Recently I read the paper posted here about how an optimal regulator needs to model what it's trying to regulate. I was amazed at how much more of it I had access to due to learning some definitions here and there.
I've picked up a Rubik's cube lately and am learning group theoretic concepts to help me solve it. I'm finding it a neat way to engage with the maths in a practical way too!
It doesn't shock me that there are holes. I noticed that some math topics are very important to engineering and physics coursework, but given short shrift in the math department. Examples are the way that complex numbers are used, and specific kinds of differential equations such as the general harmonic oscillator.
My college physics coursework actually had its own "math methods" class, intended to fill some of those gaps, and to get us prepared for the higher level physics courses.
Mathematics is a very general tool. As with any very general tool, a lot of the devil is in the details of how to use it in any particular domain.
For this reason, in-sourcing mathematics service courses is best for everyone. The very best math-adjacent departments in every field tend to do this either directly or indirectly. E.g., in the direct model, many CS departments internalize the Discrete Mathematics course and some combinatorics. And an example of the indirect model is Mathematics departments that hire Math Finance professors to cover the service load for econ/fin/bus depts.
I think this in-sourcing (either directly or indirectly) is best for everyone -- mathematics depts don't do a good job at teaching those service courses and often don't do a great job of it in any case. Unfortunately, most departments don't have the headcount (in students or faculty) for a specialized mathematics curriculum, so they have to share the math faculty with N other majors to predictable effect.