To elaborate of the commenter above, here's what I tried to try to get some information about this site:
* Looked at the top and bottom nav for a link to something like a blog or an about page.
* Searching for [2ndwind] brings up tons of athletics links.
* Tried visiting both /about and /blog to see if there was more content, just hidden.
The poster including more information about the site than is in the real <title> makes it seem like they know more. If you do: please summarize what this page is.
I probably should have stated that more kindly. I love the idea and I love that you've brought it here for comment.
The "hell no" comment comes from experiencing the dark pattern of requiring an email before the user can determine if there's any value. This pattern has been abused time and again, and many people will just leave without learning what it's about before giving out an email for another marketing push. I did, and maybe all the upvoters of that comment also. Even if the privacy terms are "no mail ever", that doesn't mean the DB won't be hacked or stolen some day, or the company simply sold and the DB harvested. Who knows. It's been spoiled by everyone before.
My suggestion is open it up so people can read all the project details. Perhaps require a signup only if the user wants to contact a poster. And consider not using email at all.
yeah, the latest update would allow you to check out the project detail but requires you to signup if you want to participate. There is also an about page. ;)
Thanks for pointing that out,
The site basically allows you to post your unfinished projects. The other users can click on Participate to join your project.
You as the project owner can decide if you want them to join or not.
If you do, you can start having a conversation with them about the project.
Will write an about page since many people are having issue understanding what the site is about
an app by John Kuo, angular JS, boostrap, domain registered in Panama, hosted on AWS. yeah, no thanks in terms of registering. interesting idea though, but needs refining
Why would any sane person pick up one of these projects? If a project isn't good enough for the original developer to continue working on it, it sure isn't good enough for anyone else to. Early/unfinished projects have a ton of design cruft and technical debt that another human would have approached a different way if starting from scratch.
The interface is a little confusing and I've got a load of questions:
- Firstly, what's the privacy/security on this site? The Privacy Policy and Terms both go nowhere and I can't find any info on this online. Looking at the source, I see it's being loaded from "/Users/johnkuo/Documents/playground/2ndwind/," so is this a reverse proxy and everything I do goes straight to your computer? Also, I can't seem to logout or delete my information in any way.
- What's the difference between "Home" and "Feed"? I'm assuming Feed does something different but it leads to the same page, and there's also a notifications button but I'm confused as to how that ties in.
- What does the "Purchase" button mean? Clicking on it says it's not finished and asks for a vote on it but I'm confused as to what the feature entails to begin with. Is this for selling off a side project?
- What sort of projects are welcome here? I see something about a backyard job although I took unfinished projects as something more technical.
- If I post or participate on a project, how does communication occur to actually onboard me onto the project? I tried clicking participate but going to my participation tab still doesn't show anything here.
Agreed. It’s a wholly bootstrap site with unfinished elements, poorly laid out columns (on mobile at least), stretched images and requires a login for any action that isn’t the front page.
Oh and the content overlaps the footer.
I think this should have been cleaned up a little before touting it on HN.
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[ 3.5 ms ] story [ 55.5 ms ] thread* Looked at the top and bottom nav for a link to something like a blog or an about page.
* Searching for [2ndwind] brings up tons of athletics links.
* Tried visiting both /about and /blog to see if there was more content, just hidden.
The poster including more information about the site than is in the real <title> makes it seem like they know more. If you do: please summarize what this page is.
The site basically allows you to post your unfinished projects. The other users can click on Participate to join your project.
You as the project owner can decide if you want them to join or not.
If you do, you can start having a conversation with them about the project.
Will write an about page since many people are having issue understanding what the site is about
I probably should have stated that more kindly. I love the idea and I love that you've brought it here for comment.
The "hell no" comment comes from experiencing the dark pattern of requiring an email before the user can determine if there's any value. This pattern has been abused time and again, and many people will just leave without learning what it's about before giving out an email for another marketing push. I did, and maybe all the upvoters of that comment also. Even if the privacy terms are "no mail ever", that doesn't mean the DB won't be hacked or stolen some day, or the company simply sold and the DB harvested. Who knows. It's been spoiled by everyone before.
My suggestion is open it up so people can read all the project details. Perhaps require a signup only if the user wants to contact a poster. And consider not using email at all.
You as the project owner can decide if you want them to join or not.
If you do, you can start having a conversation with them about the project.
Will write an about page since many people are having issue understanding what the site is about
However for now I can't even drag myself to fill the form, because I have absolutely zero hope of getting someone interested in working on my things.
Classic chicken-and-egg.
- Firstly, what's the privacy/security on this site? The Privacy Policy and Terms both go nowhere and I can't find any info on this online. Looking at the source, I see it's being loaded from "/Users/johnkuo/Documents/playground/2ndwind/," so is this a reverse proxy and everything I do goes straight to your computer? Also, I can't seem to logout or delete my information in any way.
- What's the difference between "Home" and "Feed"? I'm assuming Feed does something different but it leads to the same page, and there's also a notifications button but I'm confused as to how that ties in.
- What does the "Purchase" button mean? Clicking on it says it's not finished and asks for a vote on it but I'm confused as to what the feature entails to begin with. Is this for selling off a side project?
- What sort of projects are welcome here? I see something about a backyard job although I took unfinished projects as something more technical.
- If I post or participate on a project, how does communication occur to actually onboard me onto the project? I tried clicking participate but going to my participation tab still doesn't show anything here.
- the links for privacy and terms are missing. We will contact the dev to look into this. so is the folder in the project.
- The home should be your projects and the feed is where other users posted their projects
- All unfinished projects. it can be your garage project, business project or house building project.
- After you click on participate, the project owner needs to approve you in order to chat with you about the project.
Oh and the content overlaps the footer.
I think this should have been cleaned up a little before touting it on HN.