Ask HN: Is Reddit still toxic even after all their “changes”?

10 points by LordOfWolves ↗ HN
(Using throwaway here as I anticipate some potential flak...)

On Reddit:

- I've tried to help blossoming entrepreneurs by giving them advice from lessons learned myself, just to get downvoted to oblivion.

- I've contributed toward gaming communities, all to be downvoted & "flamed", because I was busy at work when the question I asked was answered by the game developers (just a couple hrs prior to my post on R).

- I've submitted topics highly relevant to other subs, all to have them shut down by a power-hungry moderator who repeats themself like a robot over-and-over again, saying I did not read the FAQ and sub rules, when I did so numerous times and the post's title & content comply.

Is there any hope left for Reddit? It seems either you agree to hate on everything you see or you are booted.

It is sad that many of our youth are on here absorbing and/or spreading this toxicity! We cannot build a better world if we are occupied with spreading hate or other unproductive and potentially harmful actions.

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I would have to say yes, based on my recent personal experience. I have encountered moderators with their own weird axe to grind disrupting the entire subreddit. Many or most contributors make simple comments, not very much more complicated than "me too", or repeat myths, urban legends or common knowledge, but pretending to expertise.
That happened to be the same experience I had with "my" "moderator".

Behavior like this should not be carpeted over with PR "here's how we're going to fix things" announcements, like the one they advertised today and/or yesterday. At the very least, Reddit moderators need some extent to the control they have and repercussions for crossing lines when done so. It's really too bad, because the platform could be so much more. Instead, it's either cute animal photos or some of the worst toxicity you can find online.

I find the more they make changes to the website the less useful it is because the mean people that would have usually staid in their typical subreddits squeeze out into the mainstream stuff and make it an overall worse site. Today was the breaking point for me. I'm actively looking for other sources of entertainment/news/etc. Trying to figure out how to use this website because it has been very trustworthy for the past several years.

To me reddit is dead as of today.

100% there with you. Looking for an alternative as well. I like "The Information" (no referral link here) but it's tech-focused. I would love something like Reddit but not censored or toxic.
I'm enjoying https://tildes.net - created by ex-reddit employee (I think the one who created automoderator). If it's still invite only I have some invites just let me know.
Maybe it's a problem in certain tech-oriented subs? I generally stay away from those and hang out other places more geared around art, local interests, travel, etc. and the communities there generally seem quite fun and friendly.
Most of the issues I've had with Reddit have been down to moderators, rather than the admin staff themselves.

I won't name the subreddit, because it essentially names the moderator involved, but I answered a question regarding website performance on a popular developer subreddit. Someone responded back by saying that I was clearly a terrible developer because I said that squeezing performance out of a personal site wasn't essential. I told that person, quite bluntly, not to be a dick, and I got permabanned with the message "no, you're a dick".

I protested to one of the mods, not necessarily for my ban to be rescinded, but for that mod to stop being a dick to people. His comment history showed a pattern of that behaviour, and (most likely) a pattern of bans. The other mod unbanned me, and I left it at that.

Weirdly, the only subreddits I've ever had problems are the larger ones. I post regularly on /r/Games and /r/bjj, and both are moderated brilliantly.

Reddit has a problem with the power-mods who mod a lot of subreddits and think they own Reddit. Lot's of behind the scenes chatter and conspiring to stay in power and take-over up-and-coming subreddits. This has been a problem for years and Reddit doesn't care because where else will they find people as motivated as the current power-mods? It's basically all they have in life I feel like.
It's a weird dynamic, and it's one that I would love to see researched, because being a moderator is a thankless job that doesn't really offer the use any real power - but evidence suggests that people will go to great lengths to abuse that power.

It gets especially weird in some of the football subreddits. Some moderators try to push the narrative that having a popular football subreddit, or controlling the subreddit for a particular football team (e.g. /r/reddevils) gives them the ability to pretend to be "in-the-know", and to speculate on transfers, pretend they know decisions going on at the club, etc.

Blind may help you answer this question, I've seen so many interesting comments about this on it.