Ask HN: Best Noise Canceling Headphones
Hi all, I have Bose Quiet Comfort nc headphones from 2004. I loved them. Electronically, they still work great, but mechanically they are on their last legs.
I’ve had a hard time finding what seem like good reviews online.
My use case is primarily for airline flights.
Can anyone make any suggestions? Any thoughts about in ear vs over ear?
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[ 5.0 ms ] story [ 191 ms ] threadI couldn’t live without my Bose QCs and they go everywhere with me. You don’t realise how much noise there is in day to day life until you’ve worn some good NC headphones around for a while then forgotten to take them with you one day.
I don't know what I'm going to do when they break as they don't make spare parts for my model anymore. I tried their wireless equivalent and just wasn't that impressed with the audio quality compared to my wired ones.
Bought it just before boarding for a 7-hour flight, and it was great. Even after a dozen flights since then, I'd still recommend it anytime. Its noise cancelling is amazing (source: I've tested it in comparison with Bose QC35, everyday in the shop before going for this one).
The XM3 has been released a while ago (minor update IMHO), has good reviews and is regularly discounted. With Black Friday almost there, you should get good deals on it.
I personally don't feel the need to buy it since I have the XM2, but I could get it for my wife.
My biggest issue is you can't use the noise cancelling or the bluetooth connectivity while it's charging. You either have to wait for it to charge (which is absurdly fast. 10m will give you at least 4-6 hours) or you have to plug in an 1/8th inch audio cable.
The touch controls are kind of odd. If the headphones are tilted slightly forward or backward and you try to increase the volume, you can accidentally trigger backward or forward. It also doesn't trigger consistently. Sometimes, I have to try once or twice before it recognizes the gesture. However, Cupping the hand over the right headphone to hear what's going on around you works every time and is priceless in an office environment.
The built in microphone is terrible. Don't use it. I use either the built in microphone in my 2015 macbook pro or the Antlion ModMic Wireless.
If you live in an area where winter is a thing and like going for walks while listening to podcasts, then don't use the gestures at all. Once the temperature dips below 32F, touching the touch-sensitive controls even once will cause the headphones to switch to "ambient sound" mode, where it pipes in the sounds around you. You can't switch it off and you can barely hear the podcast. To sony's credit, this isn't permanent. You can reboot the headphones and it works perfectly again, provided you avoid those touch controls.
All that said, I don't regret my purchase in the least. They're great headphones and I'll use them until they die on me.
Concerning the microphone, yes it's terrible enough for me to avoid taking my calls with it. So whenever I have a incoming call in the middle of my music/podcast, I have to take off the XM2 and put on a tiny bluetooth earset (both connected to the phone). A bit cumbersome and not great.
For the touch controls, I live in a very hot (tropical) area, so no chance of having winter here ^^
I did some research and it turned out that while there were some differences between the two, there weren't many.
To this day I have zero regrets with getting the XM2.
Definitely over ear for flights. Combined with foam plugs you can pretty much sleep in silence on overnight flights
https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-noise-cancelling-head...
I have a pair of Bose QuietComfort 32 II, which are quite lightweight and absolutely love them. However before the new 700 model came out, Bose released a firmware that reduced the noise cancelling impact on the QuietComfort 32 II (although they swear that the firmware upgrade shouldn't change impact noise cancelling it was measured by independent parties and it is indeed reduced).
[0] https://thewirecutter.com
At the time, the Beats noise cancellation was considered sub-par compared to the Bose. That may have changed.
I haven't tried the new AirPods, but I do very much like an over-the-ear form factor for long sessions. (I have "regular" AirPods, too.) Anything in or on my ear get uncomfortable after a while for me.
I'm using WH-1000XM3. I bought it couple of months ago. I think it is good. But, it also depends on your music taste. I mean if you are bass-heavy, WH-1000XM3 might not be enough for you.
The Sony have punchy sound. If you're a bass head, you are going to love them. The application that goes with them also gives you a lot of control. However, after playing with all the settings for a few days, I found myself not touching them ever again.
For noise cancellation on airline flights, the Bose do a better job. Even after adjusting the Sony to the aircraft pressure level. Maybe the Sony are better at canceling other people's voice, but they are not as good as the Bose to cancel the noise of the aircraft engine.
The Airpods Pro also do a surprisingly good job at canceling the noise of the engine. During my last flight, I used the Airpods Pro and the Sony on top of them. Not very comfortable, but noise cancellation was amazing :)
When it comes to comfort, the Sony tend to hurt the top of my head after a while. The Bose are more comfortable.
I love the Sonys, with a couple caveats that have been mentioned: hand gestures are a gimmick (sometimes skips a track if you remove your headphones the "wrong" way), default charging cable is too short, and my number 1 pet peeve, the announcer voice (for low battery, changing NC modes) mutes the sound, and those announcements are slooooow, which means you sometimes have to skip back if you miss something you were listening to. All minor annoyances compared to the great experience of using the product, though.
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/tools/compare/bose-quietco...
I tried buying beyerdynamic headphones a couple weeks ago, but the comfort didn't compare - at all. They were too tight and the cushion wasn't nearly as soft.
I'd strongly consider comfort as one of your metrics. There are a lot of nice over-ear headphones with good sound quality, but the cushion padding and stretch of the bridge matters too. Bose uses really nice cushions. I've heard good things about Sony's as well.
Shortly after, I returned them and got Sony WH-XB900N -- after reading many reviews on both headsets. They are also lightweight, do not give me a headache, and were easy to set up / pair. The bass in them is amazing. If I'm ever distracted, throw them on, turn on some dubstep and just feel the music. It's a totally different experience. I feel much more immersed in the sound with them.
I should say that prior to purchasing either of the above, I only used the stock earbuds that come with the iphones. They weren't so compatible with the shape of my ear canal though, and my ears would start to hurt around the 30 minute mark.
I never felt anything.
I think the headaches (for me) result from pressure (clamping force), not necessarily the noise-cancelling. The Sony's and the Bose were both light enough that there isn't much of a clamping force from left to right on my head. I do not get a headache from the Sony's and did not from the Bose either.
One nice feature that I found out about digging around the manual is that if you touch your whole palm to the right side (the touch control side) the sound quiets and the ambient noise is amplified, kinda like taking one ear out. It's a nice little touch.
There may be a few technical favours either way as far as version goes, the MX3 has an advantage when I bought them, but having tried my wife’s QC for a week they certainly do the job as well.
The hand control features/gestures on the MX suck by the way, so don’t take those as a selling point. Solely go for long term comfort.
Cost a few dollars more though.
All of that to say that when I saw the details on the model 700 I smiled when I saw there was no more slide switch on the device. I’m patiently waiting for my QC-35 to die completely before buying the model 700 as a replacement.
For my commute (train+tube/bus+walk) I use my Bose QC30. Full-on noise cancellation on the train/tube, then I dial it down to 50/50 on the noise passthrough when walking in London to avoid being crushed by a bus or cyclist. (And also in-ears are harder for moped based thieves to steal off your head)