Ask HN: Best Noise Canceling Headphones

87 points by matt_the_bass ↗ HN
Hi all, I have Bose Quiet Comfort nc headphones from 2004. I loved them. Electronically, they still work great, but mechanically they are on their last legs.

I’ve had a hard time finding what seem like good reviews online.

My use case is primarily for airline flights.

Can anyone make any suggestions? Any thoughts about in ear vs over ear?

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If you're after a very good set of budget noise canceling headphones, I would recommend Plantronics BackBeat PRO 2.
In terms of reliability and support I would say whatever Bose's latest NC headphone is in the QC line.
Have you had recent interactions with Bose? I’ve heard they’ve gone downhill over the past few years. Any thoughts?
I bought Bose QC 35 last year and they are great, definitely my personal favorite of the ones I sampled or tried by borrowing from friends. I would disagree with any claims Bose NC models are dropping in quality.
There will always be people in the good and bad camps but for the price I think they offer the best mix of design, durability and NC capabilities. I would definitely always go for the wireless version because the moment you have a wire again, you notice how clumsy and annoying it is.
Apparently in tests the new Sony’s are slightly better NC than the Bose, but I tested them in a store and preferred the audio quality of my Bose QCs and couldn’t personally tell a difference in NC.

I couldn’t live without my Bose QCs and they go everywhere with me. You don’t realise how much noise there is in day to day life until you’ve worn some good NC headphones around for a while then forgotten to take them with you one day.

I'm the same. I kind leave the house without my BOSE headphones. THey make just walking about outside, or the office or public transport bareable.

I don't know what I'm going to do when they break as they don't make spare parts for my model anymore. I tried their wireless equivalent and just wasn't that impressed with the audio quality compared to my wired ones.

Noise and stimulation pollution is a thing. I play brown noise most of the time in my noise cancelling headphones. Love it.
I've had Sony WH-1000XM2 for two years now.

Bought it just before boarding for a 7-hour flight, and it was great. Even after a dozen flights since then, I'd still recommend it anytime. Its noise cancelling is amazing (source: I've tested it in comparison with Bose QC35, everyday in the shop before going for this one).

The XM3 has been released a while ago (minor update IMHO), has good reviews and is regularly discounted. With Black Friday almost there, you should get good deals on it.

I personally don't feel the need to buy it since I have the XM2, but I could get it for my wife.

I've had the XM3 for a year. It's a great set of headphones and the noise canceling works great. It does have a few peculiarities to be aware of.

My biggest issue is you can't use the noise cancelling or the bluetooth connectivity while it's charging. You either have to wait for it to charge (which is absurdly fast. 10m will give you at least 4-6 hours) or you have to plug in an 1/8th inch audio cable.

The touch controls are kind of odd. If the headphones are tilted slightly forward or backward and you try to increase the volume, you can accidentally trigger backward or forward. It also doesn't trigger consistently. Sometimes, I have to try once or twice before it recognizes the gesture. However, Cupping the hand over the right headphone to hear what's going on around you works every time and is priceless in an office environment.

The built in microphone is terrible. Don't use it. I use either the built in microphone in my 2015 macbook pro or the Antlion ModMic Wireless.

If you live in an area where winter is a thing and like going for walks while listening to podcasts, then don't use the gestures at all. Once the temperature dips below 32F, touching the touch-sensitive controls even once will cause the headphones to switch to "ambient sound" mode, where it pipes in the sounds around you. You can't switch it off and you can barely hear the podcast. To sony's credit, this isn't permanent. You can reboot the headphones and it works perfectly again, provided you avoid those touch controls.

All that said, I don't regret my purchase in the least. They're great headphones and I'll use them until they die on me.

Hey, thank you for the extended review. I agree on all the points you've made.

Concerning the microphone, yes it's terrible enough for me to avoid taking my calls with it. So whenever I have a incoming call in the middle of my music/podcast, I have to take off the XM2 and put on a tiny bluetooth earset (both connected to the phone). A bit cumbersome and not great.

For the touch controls, I live in a very hot (tropical) area, so no chance of having winter here ^^

I'll second these. Best headphones I've ever owned.
I bought a used XM2 because the number one question I wanted to know was, "If you already own an XM2, is it worth it to upgrade to an XM3?"

I did some research and it turned out that while there were some differences between the two, there weren't many.

To this day I have zero regrets with getting the XM2.

I use both inner ear and over ear Bose. I find noise cancellation feeling is more prominent to the point of distraction on the inner ear QC 30s. I find the QC 35 over ear provide better experience. Sony's 1000 seems to edge Bose out in noise cancellation. However I have been impressed with the 700, and I think Bose is now back on top. Either of them are cracking noise cancellation headsets.
QC35 is the reason I still haven’t quit my noisy open office job
If you're going for Bose, their latest Headphones (NC 700) is something you should look at. Sony came a close second, but that was before Bose updated the QC35.
Sony WH-1000XM2 can be had for a steal occasionally - given that it's last gen model.

Definitely over ear for flights. Combined with foam plugs you can pretty much sleep in silence on overnight flights

Don't buy the 1000XM2's. Although cheaper, there's lots of reports that the XM1's (and 1st gen) have cracking issues on the headband portion. XM3 appears to have fixed that. XM3's go on sale for high $200s often, so it's not much of a stretch to get XM3's.
I have done extensive testing and review reading. You have two options: sony xm3 or bose 700.
Over hear are the best in my opinion, but now that it's winter I regret that it's difficult to use a hat and over hear headphones at the same time.

I have a pair of Bose QuietComfort 32 II, which are quite lightweight and absolutely love them. However before the new 700 model came out, Bose released a firmware that reduced the noise cancelling impact on the QuietComfort 32 II (although they swear that the firmware upgrade shouldn't change impact noise cancelling it was measured by independent parties and it is indeed reduced).

Wirecutter[0] always has the best in-depth reviews for headphones (of every type). I have the Bose QC35's (older generation, they were just refreshed) and they are great. I would recommend over the ear, especially if you are using them on flights or a noisy office.

[0] https://thewirecutter.com

I'll echo on the older pair of QC35s. They still work great. I bet you could find a screaming deal on eBay. I've refreshed mine with new pads and a bluetooth adapter.

At the time, the Beats noise cancellation was considered sub-par compared to the Bose. That may have changed.

I haven't tried the new AirPods, but I do very much like an over-the-ear form factor for long sessions. (I have "regular" AirPods, too.) Anything in or on my ear get uncomfortable after a while for me.

Hey,

I'm using WH-1000XM3. I bought it couple of months ago. I think it is good. But, it also depends on your music taste. I mean if you are bass-heavy, WH-1000XM3 might not be enough for you.

that's interesting. if you read reviews about Bose (qc35 ou bose 700) they say to go to XM3 of you want more bass power. maybe you have a faulty unity?
I would prefer sony wh-xb900n extra bass model for better bass experience.
I have the QC35 and the WH-1000XM3.

The Sony have punchy sound. If you're a bass head, you are going to love them. The application that goes with them also gives you a lot of control. However, after playing with all the settings for a few days, I found myself not touching them ever again.

For noise cancellation on airline flights, the Bose do a better job. Even after adjusting the Sony to the aircraft pressure level. Maybe the Sony are better at canceling other people's voice, but they are not as good as the Bose to cancel the noise of the aircraft engine.

The Airpods Pro also do a surprisingly good job at canceling the noise of the engine. During my last flight, I used the Airpods Pro and the Sony on top of them. Not very comfortable, but noise cancellation was amazing :)

When it comes to comfort, the Sony tend to hurt the top of my head after a while. The Bose are more comfortable.

I have experience with both WH-1000XM3 and Bose QC35 II and I must say, your description is spot on for both headphones. Bose QC35 II has a very balanced sound spectrum and I like them a lot when I am listening relaxing music and everything. Sony WH-1000XM3 has great bass and the noise cancelling is really good but I like balanced headphones more, so I just go with my Bose instead.
This is contrary to my personal experience so I would recommend people test it for themselves. The Sony to me sound far more balanced compared to the muddy, bass-heavy Bose.

I love the Sonys, with a couple caveats that have been mentioned: hand gestures are a gimmick (sometimes skips a track if you remove your headphones the "wrong" way), default charging cable is too short, and my number 1 pet peeve, the announcer voice (for low battery, changing NC modes) mutes the sound, and those announcements are slooooow, which means you sometimes have to skip back if you miss something you were listening to. All minor annoyances compared to the great experience of using the product, though.

Although it’s definitely subjective whether or not you like them, I can objectively say that the Sonys are more bass heavy than the Boses [1]. I’ve tried both of them extensively and I also found that to be the case subjectively. The Sonys do offer some ways to adjust this, but in the end I went for the out of the box sound of the Boses.

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/tools/compare/bose-quietco...

Interesting data! I wonder what explains my perception.
I'm using the Bose QuietComfort 25 wired headphones right now. I've been using them for years. Every time an ear cushion wears out or falls off, I buy new ear cushions and replace the old ones. I've now resorted to even using Gorilla glue to keep them attached (because the base isn't in good shape any more). They're still perfect in sound quality and really, really comfortable.

I tried buying beyerdynamic headphones a couple weeks ago, but the comfort didn't compare - at all. They were too tight and the cushion wasn't nearly as soft.

I'd strongly consider comfort as one of your metrics. There are a lot of nice over-ear headphones with good sound quality, but the cushion padding and stretch of the bridge matters too. Bose uses really nice cushions. I've heard good things about Sony's as well.

Sony XM3, Bose QC 35 or Bose 700 - try them all and pick whatever is most comfortable. Noise cancelling in all 3 is good enough that you're unlikely to be able to tell the difference.
I purchased the BOSE QuietComfort 35's - and they felt nice, were lightweight, cancelled noise well. They did not give me a headache, etc. For my personal taste, I found the bass lacking. I like to listen to dubstep when it gets noisy at work (something that I can just zone out to and not have lyrics to listen to, etc). And the lows just didn't hit hard enough for me.

Shortly after, I returned them and got Sony WH-XB900N -- after reading many reviews on both headsets. They are also lightweight, do not give me a headache, and were easy to set up / pair. The bass in them is amazing. If I'm ever distracted, throw them on, turn on some dubstep and just feel the music. It's a totally different experience. I feel much more immersed in the sound with them.

I should say that prior to purchasing either of the above, I only used the stock earbuds that come with the iphones. They weren't so compatible with the shape of my ear canal though, and my ears would start to hurt around the 30 minute mark.

Is the headache concern something you’ve dealt with from using tight/heavy headphones or is that something to do with noise canceling?
Some people feel headache due to Noise canceling. There are lots of reports about it.

I never felt anything.

Yes. I haven't found over the ear gaming headphones that I can wear. I've tried countless sets, and all result in a headache after about 30 minutes. My preferred gaming headset is a behind the neck style.

I think the headaches (for me) result from pressure (clamping force), not necessarily the noise-cancelling. The Sony's and the Bose were both light enough that there isn't much of a clamping force from left to right on my head. I do not get a headache from the Sony's and did not from the Bose either.

I don't have much experience from a NC perspective, but I recently got the Sony WH-1000X MK3 for office & travel and I greatly enjoy them. From a an amateur audiophile perspective, they sound pretty good, they're pretty comfy, and the touch controls are pretty nice.

One nice feature that I found out about digging around the manual is that if you touch your whole palm to the right side (the touch control side) the sound quiets and the ambient noise is amplified, kinda like taking one ear out. It's a nice little touch.

I had to return by Bose because the NC gave me a weird pressure like feeling and it was uncomfortable to listen for more than 20 minutes at a time. Funny enough, the Sony 1000XM3 don't give me that feeling at all, I can listen to it all day no problem. I highly recommend the Sonys.
I bought a pair of Sony MX3 earlier this year, or maybe late 2018 and at the time I did a lot of research on them. I think it boils down to a choice between the MX and the QC and the best option for you is probably going to be a tad personal. I know people who swear by the the QC, my wife included, but the MX fit me (and my rather sturdy glasses) much better.

There may be a few technical favours either way as far as version goes, the MX3 has an advantage when I bought them, but having tried my wife’s QC for a week they certainly do the job as well.

The hand control features/gestures on the MX suck by the way, so don’t take those as a selling point. Solely go for long term comfort.

Beoplay H9. Had QC35 for years until they broke and have tried Sony’s, but like H9 the best so far.

Cost a few dollars more though.

I really like the performance of my Bose QC-35. The problem is the slide switch: it broke with days left on the one year warranty so I called Bose expecting an ordeal but within five minutes a “new or refurbished” QC-35 unit was on the way — with the warranty extended out another year - along with a return shipping label to send back the broken pair. It’s been a couple years since the warranty swap and the slide switch on the replacement QC-35 has also broken. I simply set the auto-time-off to five minutes and use the pause/play button to turn them on after auto shutoff. The only problem is pairing the headset with another/new device as the slide switch needs to be gingerly manipulated in just the perfect manner, something you’re not going to do while driving.

All of that to say that when I saw the details on the model 700 I smiled when I saw there was no more slide switch on the device. I’m patiently waiting for my QC-35 to die completely before buying the model 700 as a replacement.

On a plane, I double up. Either my Shure in-ear (noise-insolation) or my Bose QC30 in-ear (noise-cancellation) with my older Bose QC15 (noise-cancellation) over-ear on top. Seems to work really well for me. Obviously, if I have any music/film on then the in-ear are the ones plugged in.

For my commute (train+tube/bus+walk) I use my Bose QC30. Full-on noise cancellation on the train/tube, then I dial it down to 50/50 on the noise passthrough when walking in London to avoid being crushed by a bus or cyclist. (And also in-ears are harder for moped based thieves to steal off your head)

I love my PSB M4U 8s. Great sound, replaceable batteries. Been using them for about a year.
I'm using Sony WH-1000XM3 and I'm extremely satisfied. Before I was using some JBL in ear. Expecially in an open office, the additional passive noise cancellation of good over ear headphones is important for me. I find the Bose QC 35II at the same level (and now cheaper) but the Sony look better :)
I owned a few (sony, beats, Samsung, and others - all over the ear) and settled with Bose. My QC35 was great and worked for years, but recently I upgraded to a Bose 700 and can say that, if you're looking specifically for Noise Cancellation, you can't go wrong with it.