I didn't get that impression from the intro Musk did about how the three best selling cars in the US are trucks and how important it is for those to become more sustainable.
Wow, looks pretty hideous to me. And it doesn't seem to even have a proper bed. Not really what I was imagining when I heard Tesla was making a truck, look more like they made a trophy truck.
They are a mid-sized car manufacturer with a relationship with a rocket company. I am not interested in buying the truck but I'm pretty confident they considered passenger safety while they were designing the truck. And if they didn't the NHTSA requires certain performance in crash tests before a vehicle is roadworthy.
Oh don't worry the other car will crumple enough for both of them. And being a higher vehicle you in your Tesla truck won't hit the bumper but the trunk instead for extra crumple.
I think the explanation is much simpler, the guy threw it faster than it was falling in the earlier test. After ~8m (more than the 20-25 feet someone else estimated) the ball is only going ~45 km/h or ~28 mph which is pretty slow actually.
The test before showed them dropping softball-sized metal balls onto a horizontal pane of Tesla Armor Glass from 20-25 feet in the air without any damage, so it set the expectation of impervious glass. Maybe if Musk stated that the glass was meant to just crack but not shatter, it would have made sense, but to me the impression I got was that the live demo on the truck was done on the fly without prior prep (Musk did say after the glass cracked that "at least it didn't go through", but not beforehand).
I think the reactions that Musk and Holzhausen had tell the story. They were not expecting that to happen at all.
Also, as noted in another story[0], the horizontal plane didn't break at least in part because it wasn't fixed rigidly in place, and thus was able to distort.
I wonder what this means for car accidents. Aren't they supposed to crunch in on impact? Or is that why they chose the door instead of a front/hood impact?
That is the ugliest, most impractical thing. Guess I’m not the target audience (I’m rural, farm country). What a let down.... I was really excited for this too.
I don’t think I’ve ever in my life heard anyone with truck say: “Man, it’s amazing off road, but the glass shatters too easily!”
disclaimer I have a 3. Love it and Tesla in general. I don’t love this.
I did in another comment in regards to goose necks. The bed is where it’s at for practical truck use outside urban areas. This design ruins a lot of obvious uses in my opinion (reach ability, tie downs, latter racks, tool boxes, loading and hauling). The slope bed sides are really what stand out as a mistake to me.
I see this being a great replacement for the Chevy Avalanche though
Haha. Maybe not 20 years... though you are right. My dad was pissed when he had to have his boat and camper trailers lifted so they rode level on his new F350. The same thing all the neighbor farmers did too when they replaced their trucks with new ones.
They all still complain about getting in and out of the trucks when we go hunting together. Lol
If we’re comparing this to real utility trucks like a Ford Ranger, you may have a point; but IMO the SUV status symbols like the F150 aren’t much better for utility vs Tesla
You haven’t even seen the specs or enough of the truck to say things like reach ability is any worse than a luxury truck
Also if you watched the whole presentation, who’s to say the front and back wheels can’t adjust height independent of each other yet
The only thing other luxury trucks have on the Tesla for now is the look. Its styling is just too forward and aggressive. even though I like it, I can see many people hating it
> This is also ignoring the fact that most luxury pickups and SUVs are also impractical gas guzzlers
But your statement also ignores the fact that many people buy luxury pickups and SUVs in part because they are impractical gas guzzlers. When you look at one of those, the first thing through your head is "there goes someone with a lot of money to blow."
I don’t disagree, but I think you’re missing my point or you didn’t read the thread before reading my comment. slovette felt that the cybertruck sucks because it’s less “practical” than luxury SUVs. I just pointed out that the luxury SUVs and luxury trucks that the cybertruck is competing against are also just impractical
We’ll... I have clients, friends and family in every industry you listed. None of them would buy this for various reasons. This is a truck made by city folk, for city folk. Which is fine, btw, I’m just disappointed as I was hoping to replace my ICE with one. I suppose I’ll just have to wait.
I've known a few people who broke their back window from throwing stuff into the bed and accidentally hitting the glass. It's probably a case of "don't do that", but some people might appreciate it.
This is a good perspective. Though I doubt there’s enough demand to warrant the heavy focus on that. This is a PR stunt, not some data driven product feature.
I know Musk is typically awkward on stage, but this one is the worst by far. He seems like he's on drugs. It's not even the way he speaks, it's like looking around paranoid. The car failed the glass demo, and he seems completely out of sync with the presentation and the videos. The audience cheers seem staged, too. Whoever's responsible for managing this did a disaster of a job.
Honestly I just wish they'd give him a clicker for the presentation. He was like this for the neuralink reveal but at least then he had other people talking to add some structure.
Everyone want's to play Steve Jobs. I guess it's an ego thing that makes him want to be up on stage, but it feels like a school presentation and isn't a good look.
Maybe I'm alone in this, but I think it's kinda nice. It makes it feel less commercially where you worry the claims are dubious and more like someone awkwardly showing you their new pet project?
Maybe I'm just getting sold on the shtick. This is the first of his presentations I've seen.
It's typically endearing for everyone the first time they see Musk present, and I agree with that. But after seeing it enough times you wonder why it's getting worse, rather than improving.
The camping one is easily the best picture aesthetically.
Makes me think this could be more of a cross target for middle class and wealthier people who drive Landrovers and jacked-up Jeeps. Rather than a country farm's workhorse, which I noticed was a setting oddly not included in the homepage pictures.
Maybe that includes the demographic who would have bought Humvees or more likely the ones who obsess over (or needs) personal safety while driving, ie being the "bigger car in the accident" type of thing people talk about.
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[ 3.0 ms ] story [ 196 ms ] threadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcROXiN_cdE
Edit: this may function as a mirror: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEwtrXGOW_o
anyone know of other copies available on the web?
"Now. It's starting now."
How did you miss the crew of people dressed like characters in a low budget 80s sci-fi movie exiting the truck? Or, more briefly, thatsthejoke.jpg
https://imgur.com/a/ewbWXwy
Or if they've been testing on this exact car and repeated strikes delaminated the mylar layers enough for it to fail.
Also, as noted in another story[0], the horizontal plane didn't break at least in part because it wasn't fixed rigidly in place, and thus was able to distort.
[0] https://www.thedrive.com/news/31158/tesla-cybertrucks-armore...
Certainly came as a surprise to Elon.
I notice they let the panel glass bounce in the drop test, which isn't similar to a window installation.
That doesn't mean it isn't an improvement though.
I wonder what this means for car accidents. Aren't they supposed to crunch in on impact? Or is that why they chose the door instead of a front/hood impact?
I'm starting to warm up to it. Definitely will be turning heads when driving.
I don’t think I’ve ever in my life heard anyone with truck say: “Man, it’s amazing off road, but the glass shatters too easily!”
disclaimer I have a 3. Love it and Tesla in general. I don’t love this.
It sounds like you made your comment before the presentation was finished.
This is also ignoring the fact that most luxury pickups and SUVs are also impractical gas guzzlers
https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2015/04/28/what-does-your-wo...
I see this being a great replacement for the Chevy Avalanche though
They all still complain about getting in and out of the trucks when we go hunting together. Lol
You haven’t even seen the specs or enough of the truck to say things like reach ability is any worse than a luxury truck
Also if you watched the whole presentation, who’s to say the front and back wheels can’t adjust height independent of each other yet
The only thing other luxury trucks have on the Tesla for now is the look. Its styling is just too forward and aggressive. even though I like it, I can see many people hating it
But your statement also ignores the fact that many people buy luxury pickups and SUVs in part because they are impractical gas guzzlers. When you look at one of those, the first thing through your head is "there goes someone with a lot of money to blow."
Which is kinda the point.
Just one off the cuff supporting detail to my gut reaction. :)
I sad though. Was hoping I would be.
Maybe I'm just getting sold on the shtick. This is the first of his presentations I've seen.
Interesting observations:
Maybe that includes the demographic who would have bought Humvees or more likely the ones who obsess over (or needs) personal safety while driving, ie being the "bigger car in the accident" type of thing people talk about.
This doesn't surprise me. The Cybertruck is going to be a harder sell than the Model Y, so they want to keep the barrier to entry much lower.