Even atheism isn't a religion, I'd like to see what the distribution is for individuals that would classify themselves as atheists. I see there's an unaffiliated category. According to the site;
This group (unaffiliated) includes atheists, agnostics and people who describe their religion as “nothing in particular.” This latter group can be further divided into “secular unaffiliated” and “religious unaffiliated.”
Yup. And some of us can even spell "atheists". :-)
(I think it's worth distinguishing between "atheists have better grammar" and "people who identify themselves as atheist on dating sites use better grammar there". It may well be that both are true, but from the second to the first is quite a leap.)
wow, i'm embarrassed so I corrected myself... used to be a spelling champ!
I think you're probably right that there is a difference between all atheists and those who identify themselves as such on a dating site, but I can't put my finger on why that would be. Is there also a difference between all hindus/muslims/etc and those identifying themselves as such?
The difference is that by taking data from a dating site, you're restricting yourself to the intersection of "uses dating site" and "is/is not atheist."
In order to argue that these people are representative of their self-reported religious affiliation, you have to show that the "uses dating site" subset is representative of the whole.
1. "Atheists" and "Atheists using OK Cupid" might be quite different populations. For instance, the latter might be younger, geekier, richer, poorer, etc.
2. "Atheists using OK Cupid" and "Atheists identifying themselves as such on OK Cupid" might be different. (I haven't used OKC, so I don't actually know, but surely you aren't required to state your (ir)religious position?) For instance, the latter might be more likely to regard atheism as important, which might (e.g.) correlate with having arrived at atheism by careful consideration of the available evidence and arguments, which might correlate with better grammar or at least more care over grammar. (Yeah, that's a lot of mights.)
3. Being better at grammar is not the same thing as using more accurate grammar in the things you write at OK Cupid. (You might be extra-careful or deliberately inaccurate; it would depend on what you expect your "audience" to like.) Nor is it the same as caring whether other people's bad grammar annoys you.
And yes, all these things would apply to any group. For instance, I understand that there are Hindu-specific dating sites; so maybe Hindus on OK Cupid are, I dunno, likely to be less concerned about meeting other Hindus, which might mean that they tend to be more cosmopolitan, which might correlate with being better educated. Or something. Again, lots of mights. But you have to be really careful about extrapolating from this kind of thing to the population at large.
I'd like to see this data adjusted for comparative cost of living. I don't think that was done here. E.g. Mormons in UT earning 75k are essentially in the same earning bracket as Hindus in Silicon Valley making 100k+.
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[ 3.5 ms ] story [ 27.0 ms ] threadThis group (unaffiliated) includes atheists, agnostics and people who describe their religion as “nothing in particular.” This latter group can be further divided into “secular unaffiliated” and “religious unaffiliated.”
Yup. And some of us can even spell "atheists". :-)
(I think it's worth distinguishing between "atheists have better grammar" and "people who identify themselves as atheist on dating sites use better grammar there". It may well be that both are true, but from the second to the first is quite a leap.)
I think you're probably right that there is a difference between all atheists and those who identify themselves as such on a dating site, but I can't put my finger on why that would be. Is there also a difference between all hindus/muslims/etc and those identifying themselves as such?
In order to argue that these people are representative of their self-reported religious affiliation, you have to show that the "uses dating site" subset is representative of the whole.
2. "Atheists using OK Cupid" and "Atheists identifying themselves as such on OK Cupid" might be different. (I haven't used OKC, so I don't actually know, but surely you aren't required to state your (ir)religious position?) For instance, the latter might be more likely to regard atheism as important, which might (e.g.) correlate with having arrived at atheism by careful consideration of the available evidence and arguments, which might correlate with better grammar or at least more care over grammar. (Yeah, that's a lot of mights.)
3. Being better at grammar is not the same thing as using more accurate grammar in the things you write at OK Cupid. (You might be extra-careful or deliberately inaccurate; it would depend on what you expect your "audience" to like.) Nor is it the same as caring whether other people's bad grammar annoys you.
And yes, all these things would apply to any group. For instance, I understand that there are Hindu-specific dating sites; so maybe Hindus on OK Cupid are, I dunno, likely to be less concerned about meeting other Hindus, which might mean that they tend to be more cosmopolitan, which might correlate with being better educated. Or something. Again, lots of mights. But you have to be really careful about extrapolating from this kind of thing to the population at large.