Is this perhaps a distraction and the real spies are already working there as civilian contractors? No intelligent person is going to blow past military police and assume they will gain access to anything.
Qualifier: I do not like extreme mandatory minimums, ever, on anything.
These people are non citizens ignoring commands of military officers taking photographs of military installations and even running, apparently, from the military while taking them.
I do not know how lax the gate guards were; but, if they were lax, it sounds like it’s time for them to be unpleasant. Give a very clear air showing ‘you are not allowed here’.
Now, there were joking comments about what would happen if people stormed the actual Area 51 and how we would shoot them. That is a reasonable response for dealing with people entering a military installation without permission and then running from the guards.
Leave it to the judge, of course, but I think a reasonable sentence for non-citizens that break into military bases without permission to include immediate extradition and perhaps a general ban on their family from coming to the United States (while allowing for exceptions, because there are tons of exceptions where that could go wrong).
This is an issue as there is a large sigint site at the Truman Annex. Makes me think they are seeing what antennas and other items exist there watching Cuba. Maybe China has some interest in Cuba now? As far as sigint sites go, this one is the most accessible due to being the southern most point in the USA. We always had problems with tourist wandering up the beach and around the fence.
If it's really a concern, let's take a drop from the ocean of the defense budget and stick armed guards by the gate they keep ignoring. They will ignore an unmanned fence. They won't ignore a pointed rifle.
Given the incompetence I'm not sure this isn't just mentally ill Chinese citizens LARPing.
It wouldn't be impossible to give a trained person a phone app that auto sends the pictures into the cloud then deletes them, leaving tourist pics for instance.
Fun project, set up a web site in Russia that pays people for photos at certain locations in the US and on sells them to who ever wants to buy them.
Cleaners and grunts get beer money, China gets photos. You take a cut. Everyone happy.
Speaking of civil rights, any guesses as to what would happen to the average Chinese citizen that attempted any these same feats while in China and this time at PLA bases?
What if non-citizens tried?
In some of the reports that happened at the U.S. bases describe in the article, the security forces were probably well within the rights of the law to use deadly force to stop the trespassers [1]
From my experience, Chinese police and authority in general are extremely lenient on first time offenders. You will usually get a stern lecture and warned never to do it again.
If you’re a non-citizen, you’ll probably be monitored for awhile.
However if you continue to get in trouble, then the punishment can increase exponentially.
Strangely, in some cases, they would just take you on a vacation [1] to get you away from the area.
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[ 2.5 ms ] story [ 41.2 ms ] threadI’ll be happy with either 20+ years or death penalty. Something to make it costly for the players, those doing the break-ins are pawns.
Raise the costs of the Chinese commanders doing this. Force the pawns knowledge of the punishment, and maybe they can come clean and turn on the CCP.
Bring on the downvotes from the woke crowd.
These people are non citizens ignoring commands of military officers taking photographs of military installations and even running, apparently, from the military while taking them.
I do not know how lax the gate guards were; but, if they were lax, it sounds like it’s time for them to be unpleasant. Give a very clear air showing ‘you are not allowed here’.
Now, there were joking comments about what would happen if people stormed the actual Area 51 and how we would shoot them. That is a reasonable response for dealing with people entering a military installation without permission and then running from the guards.
Leave it to the judge, of course, but I think a reasonable sentence for non-citizens that break into military bases without permission to include immediate extradition and perhaps a general ban on their family from coming to the United States (while allowing for exceptions, because there are tons of exceptions where that could go wrong).
https://twitter.com/Simon85205764/status/1221842394745884673...
It wouldn't be impossible to give a trained person a phone app that auto sends the pictures into the cloud then deletes them, leaving tourist pics for instance.
Fun project, set up a web site in Russia that pays people for photos at certain locations in the US and on sells them to who ever wants to buy them.
Cleaners and grunts get beer money, China gets photos. You take a cut. Everyone happy.
You know that pokemon go basically fits this description, right?
And that the developer (keyhole Inc) was a cia nga contractor / incubator project that made the precursor version of Google Earth years ago.
What better way to get real time photo intelligence of a location than to drop a Picachu right in front and wait for the pics to come rolling in.
I suspect that the Chinese and Russians have attempted to mimic this ability. Maybe we're seeing it play out.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hanke
What if non-citizens tried?
In some of the reports that happened at the U.S. bases describe in the article, the security forces were probably well within the rights of the law to use deadly force to stop the trespassers [1]
[1] https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:50%20section:...
If you’re a non-citizen, you’ll probably be monitored for awhile.
However if you continue to get in trouble, then the punishment can increase exponentially.
Strangely, in some cases, they would just take you on a vacation [1] to get you away from the area.
1. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/12/24/chinas-bizarre...