The Article describes 100% what has happened with covid based on the sars experience and research since then. Whether the covid19 virus jumped from bats or civets hopefully the Chinese wet markets will stop carrying animals that have viruses that are so detrimental to humans.
They will close the markets for a while and then they'll reopen them just like the last time, and the time before that, and the time before that. This is like the 4th time this stuff makes the jump to humans there, and they're getting exceedingly efficient at it. Russian Flu (H1N1 epidemic of '77, see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/702749), SARS, Swine Flu (H1N1 '09), COVID19. Did I miss anything? Some argue Spanish Flu originates there also, since China did not have an epidemic in 1918 unlike the rest of the world.
That's not to say shit like this couldn't happen here in good ol' US of A. Apparently prion disease in deer is one possibility for a cross-over, and that'd be very bad news indeed. As of right now we're not screening deer for it. We should.
Anything that isn't on the allowed list isn't allowed as food. Then if any new virus infects your herd of beef, you can't sell it anymore. That's a strong incentive to keep your herd isolated and not hunt random wild animals.
> The obvious solution is to stop breeding and hunting animals for food, period.
As with most things, the "obvious solution" is the naive and wrong solution. Sadly, that type of shallow thinking is prevalent in vegan cultism.
> No more coronas, bird flus, swine flus, mad cows, salmonellas, etc.
And no humans and no human civilization... Besides, the human population has grown 3000% the past few centuries. Far more people have benefited from meat than have been hurt by it. It's why pretty much every society on earth consumes meat.
Also, technically, if "No more coronas, bird flus, swine flus, mad cows, salmonellas, etc." is what you want, we'd either have to completely cordone humanity from nature altogether or we'd have to wipe out all animals. Most zoonotic diseases aren't transmitted via meat, it's transmitted by air, spit or bites ( from animals ). So no more hiking, parks, etc? Humans also get zoonotic diseases from pets, should we ban dogs,cats,etc?
I think the best option is to understand these viruses better, so we should be increasing funding to stay ahead of the next disease. Ideally, we could identify a set of likely deadly viruses so we can be ready to develop vaccines if necessary.
Even if they're cooked, the handler could have contracted it during preparation.
I don't know Chinese culture well enough to know if we can solve this problem through market controls (might just shift to the black market), so we should be focusing efforts on identifying and understanding viruses and bacteria that could transfer to humans so we can stay a step ahead of disease. I'm sure we're doing a lot of that now, so perhaps we just need to adjust funding.
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[ 3.6 ms ] story [ 42.6 ms ] threadThat's not to say shit like this couldn't happen here in good ol' US of A. Apparently prion disease in deer is one possibility for a cross-over, and that'd be very bad news indeed. As of right now we're not screening deer for it. We should.
The now infamous Wuhan market is a seafood market and was deemed not the source at all.
Chinese don't really eat bats and the viral "bat soup" video was actually from Indonesia.
Other virus also from bats, like Ebola, have popped up on different continents.
If there is an issue it is likely the hunting of wild animal for food, not "wet markets".
We should be careful and avoid "China bashing" reactions.
Anything that isn't on the allowed list isn't allowed as food. Then if any new virus infects your herd of beef, you can't sell it anymore. That's a strong incentive to keep your herd isolated and not hunt random wild animals.
As with most things, the "obvious solution" is the naive and wrong solution. Sadly, that type of shallow thinking is prevalent in vegan cultism.
> No more coronas, bird flus, swine flus, mad cows, salmonellas, etc.
And no humans and no human civilization... Besides, the human population has grown 3000% the past few centuries. Far more people have benefited from meat than have been hurt by it. It's why pretty much every society on earth consumes meat.
Also, technically, if "No more coronas, bird flus, swine flus, mad cows, salmonellas, etc." is what you want, we'd either have to completely cordone humanity from nature altogether or we'd have to wipe out all animals. Most zoonotic diseases aren't transmitted via meat, it's transmitted by air, spit or bites ( from animals ). So no more hiking, parks, etc? Humans also get zoonotic diseases from pets, should we ban dogs,cats,etc?
I don't know Chinese culture well enough to know if we can solve this problem through market controls (might just shift to the black market), so we should be focusing efforts on identifying and understanding viruses and bacteria that could transfer to humans so we can stay a step ahead of disease. I'm sure we're doing a lot of that now, so perhaps we just need to adjust funding.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Pests_Campaign
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-wo...
"If coronaviruses were the culprit", she remembers thinking, “could they have come from our lab?”
"By January 7 the Wuhan team determined the new virus had indeed caused the disease those patients suffered"
The pieces of the puzzle were out there for anyone to assemble.
Sorry 50cent party members, but the truth is coming out. Soon the whole world will hate you (if it doesn't already).
Chang Lang NEEDS his bat soup and pangolin penis.