Because WHO is effectively owned by the Chinese, Taiwan is not a member of the WHO. In fact, WHO doesn't even recognize _the existence_ of Taiwan. Take a look at this right here Orwellian bullshit: https://twitter.com/wilfredchan/status/1243887606569590784. Isn't it wonderful when China has you by the balls?
This is incredible, and shows how much China has now pushed over the WHO. I'm almost certain Chinese pressure on the WHO also influenced a lot of their statements.
Maybe you're right, but it's completely infiltatred by China.
,,Tedros overlooked the Chinese government's early attempts to suppress information but offered "effusive praise" for its containment efforts instead''
Would you mind reviewing them as well? Note this one at the end: Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.
Is the WHO even relevant? The WHO is not a sovereign authority, and has proven to not be independent too. They have been lying the entire time. Their statements
1. No evidence of human to human transmission
2. No need to ban travel from China. Ineffective
3. It is not a pandemic
4. Some twitter threads who WHO adding traditional chinese medicine in their list of medicines for COVID-19 in their chinese language posts.
5. Masks do not work.
If the WHO can't be independent, can't say things truly, and they never had any sovereign authority to begin with, what good exactly are they?
The WHO is relevant because every national, state and local medical authority and doctor has been trained and conditioned to trust them over the past decades. Even now you will find, infectious disease doctors citing WHO guidance in articles and on twitter. There is a level of faith in WHO which seems no longer warranted.
These organizations are useless and full of functionaries.
RKI (Robert Koch Institut) in Germany is the same. Incompetent, unable to produce proper graphs or measurements, but great at making press conferences televised by the state television bureaucrats.
I am neither Taiwanese or Chinese and have no dog in that fight except as it pertains to avoiding pandemics.
Taiwanese friends tell me that during the SARS outbreak, China refused to share data with them which it shared with every other country. Taiwan was hit very hard because they were flying blind. This led them to establish independent monitoring and early warning systems since they have extensive trade and cultural links with China and large numbers of travelers.
The current VP of Taiwan is an epidemiologist who was the health minister during the SARs outbreak and their current response has been one of the most effective (108 cases, 1 death).
Every country would want to work with Taiwan on this issue not ostracize them like the WHO. They are like a monitoring and early-warning system for these kinds of pathogens coming out of China.
Probably relevant, about how others should treat Taiwan, especially how WHO is treating Taiwan:
A journalist asked World Health Organization’s assistant director-general Bruce Aylward whether the UN body would reconsider Taiwan’s membership, got “I’m sorry, I couldn’t hear your question… let’s move to another one then…”; and when the journalist asked to comment on Taiwan’s effort, got “we’ve already talked about China.”
> [...] their current response has been one of the most effective (108 cases, 1 death).
While I generally agree with your overall point, this statistics is severely out of date. As of this post, the current numbers are 283 cases and 2 deaths[0][1].
TIL: The head of the WHO, "Dr" Tedros is not a medical doctor but has a Ph.D. in health. He was previously the health minister of Ethiopia and China was instrumental in getting him elected. Fun fact: He tried to get Robert Mugabe elected as a goodwill ambassador for the WHO.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tedros_Adhanom#Head_of_the_Tig...
"Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."
That means keeping the facts and dropping the name-calling and flamebait.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Would you mind reviewing them as well? Note this one at the end: Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.
1. No evidence of human to human transmission
2. No need to ban travel from China. Ineffective
3. It is not a pandemic
4. Some twitter threads who WHO adding traditional chinese medicine in their list of medicines for COVID-19 in their chinese language posts.
5. Masks do not work.
If the WHO can't be independent, can't say things truly, and they never had any sovereign authority to begin with, what good exactly are they?
2. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-who-idUSKBN1...
3. https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/04/health/who-coronavirus-not-pa...
Can't comment on 4.
5. it's a little bit complicated as I believe they are just not recommending masks unless you are sick or caring for the sick.
#3 obviously every pandemic was not always a pandemic.
The question is who's controlling the WHO.
China and drug cartels are 2 options, but I don't know....both have interests in what's going on, and central banks seem to play along somewhat.
RKI (Robert Koch Institut) in Germany is the same. Incompetent, unable to produce proper graphs or measurements, but great at making press conferences televised by the state television bureaucrats.
Taiwanese friends tell me that during the SARS outbreak, China refused to share data with them which it shared with every other country. Taiwan was hit very hard because they were flying blind. This led them to establish independent monitoring and early warning systems since they have extensive trade and cultural links with China and large numbers of travelers.
The current VP of Taiwan is an epidemiologist who was the health minister during the SARs outbreak and their current response has been one of the most effective (108 cases, 1 death).
Every country would want to work with Taiwan on this issue not ostracize them like the WHO. They are like a monitoring and early-warning system for these kinds of pathogens coming out of China.
And all sources that put Taiwan as a province of China should change it.
( Won't happen though)
A journalist asked World Health Organization’s assistant director-general Bruce Aylward whether the UN body would reconsider Taiwan’s membership, got “I’m sorry, I couldn’t hear your question… let’s move to another one then…”; and when the journalist asked to comment on Taiwan’s effort, got “we’ve already talked about China.”
[1]: https://twitter.com/emilyrauhala/status/1243905923048976384
(Which is supporting your “Won't happen though”.)
While I generally agree with your overall point, this statistics is severely out of date. As of this post, the current numbers are 283 cases and 2 deaths[0][1].
[0] https://www.cdc.gov.tw/En
[1] https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html; numbers can lag by a day or two.
Aside: perhaps FT could chip in with the rest of the world here by making any of their articles about coronavirus open access...
Edit: curious about downvotes - it’s my first time circumventing a paywall. Disclaimer: I would describe myself as a capitalist hippie.
WHO is but one example. Screw them.
Source: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/china-helped-put-man-...