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Ask HN: Consciousness is _ and AI is _? and which one makes you happy?

4 points by raoof ↗ HN
hi everybody. I want to know your view about consciousness. so which answer do you think is most likely to be true and which one makes you happy. you can give your answer as a 1 to 10 digit number.

I think 0123456789 is true and 9876543210 makes me happy.

0. I don't know

1. doesn't exist, not possible

2. doesn't exist, possible

3. non-physical , not conscious

4. physical , not conscious

5. non-physical , conscious

6. physical , conscious

7. non-physical , not possible

8. physical , not possible

9. I don't care

4 comments

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ekr
I don't understand the question about happiness, but I'm quite sure that consciousness is emergent phenomena (illusion mainly) of the various physical brain subsystems. AI, or rather these physical brain components are almost certainly emulatable in a computing device (to be read as, I estimate a high probability). How efficiently is the only remaining question.

Also, the way this is implemented in the brain is probably far from the most efficient way.

raoof
so you prefer to call it a physical phenomena instead of saying it doesn't exist, right? if the universe can be described by motion of particle in a 3D space (let's forget about QM and GR) I prefer to say consciousness doesn't exist and to know that the universe doesn't care about us doesn't make me happy
peteradio
human consciousness is not deterministic yet physical ai won't match the breadth of human ability unless it gives up on determinism. 0 makes me happy.
stOneskull
it's really 0 but i have suspicions that it is 3.

i think consciousness is like radio. you need the physical antenna to tune into it, eg. the brain. so 3, but there is still the need for the physical part to consciousness.

i don't think machines can tune into that and be conscious, they'll just emulate better and better.