Ask HN: How do I cope knowing people make more than me on onlyfans?
My cousin has been on only fans since the start and she’s making almost 10k a month, she has not put in 1% of the effort I have in life and it’s making me depressed. I know money isnt everything but it’s one of the biggest parts in quality of life and I feel like I wasted my time going to university, interview prepping etc when I could have just dressed up and showed the occasional cleavage
Edit: just so I make it clear, I don’t hate her for it. I just have a hard to accepting it but i guess life isn’t fair.
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[ 2.6 ms ] story [ 86.1 ms ] threadYour education/interviews/early career are adding value to your skills and remuneration, if you follow the most typical paths, each year you will make more money than the previous year - occasionally in small payrises, sometimes in big steps as you shift jobs to better ones thanks to the experience/skills/network you gained in earlier roles. This will mostly "just happen" unless you fuckup or sabotage it big time. It'll be the assumed progression for you by your managers, recruiters, lenders, partners, "the world".
Your cousin does not have that. In five years, you'll be well on your way to her $10k/month, if not beyond already. And you'll be wondering to yourself "are they gonna try and stiff me with just a single digit percent payrise here, cause I have a bunch of recruiter calls I'll letting go to voicemail I could start picking up on.." What's your cousin going to do when her admittedly valuable youthful beauty inevitably wanes? What's her $10k/month Instagram influencer income going to look like when she's 25? Or 35? or 50?
Be happy for her that she's taking advantage of what she's got. Be generous with any advice you can offer her about planning for her future, when some new pretty young things come up underneath her and leave her wondering where all that money went...
Isn't marriage usually the escape hatch in these situations?
retire after becoming a millionaire? It's ridiculous how some of these people make a month. Take a look at this calculator on this page: https://onlyfans.com/how
"Youthful beauty" doesn't last 20+ years. She needs another plan.
Coping is an interesting word choice. It hints at perceived wrong.
Internalizing an injustice can force one to confront morality.
It is complicated. I only want to present a different case.
There was a recent report on charges against a sex-trafficking ring where the victims were "rescued"... but later were re-victimized. Turns out the undercover officers in the investigation reportedly had paid and participated in sexual acts with the victims which eventually lead to a dismissal of charges due to entrampment laws.
1. Decisions matter in this sense.
2. Consequences are often not directly measurable
(Does sexual freedom come with hidden costs to us, such as porn addiction effects, prevalence of STDs, etc?) (Is supporting abortion or 'reproductive rights' of disadvantaged groups different from genocide?) (A recent example: does the positive of lives saved by the pandemic lockdown balance with the negatives of its economic impact?)
3. An easy answer is not in my HN comment.
Most adult industry workers burn out quickly and move on to other things. But if your cousin manages to stay in the industry for even 10 years and still keep making more money that way (or if she uses the money she made through onlyfans and moves on to make more money through other means), then she probably deserves it since it's not easy to pull off.
Assuming you make money with your brain, you probably have decades ahead of you. Plus, you can expand your horizon (for making money) in various ways, while your cousin probably has only one way to make money which depends heavily on looks, which is a depreciating asset.
Do you have any data on what they end up doing? I'm curious because I haven't met anyone unsuccessful who admitted to working in the adult industry when they were younger. I don't think a woman who is attractive enough to make 10k a month is going to end up struggling to pay rent when they're 30.
And this is becoming more and more severe because the competition is becoming exponentially fierce thanks to online porn websites.
But you seem to be asking whether attractive females can do well in their life, and yeah of course attractive females do have competitive advantage in life, but that has nothing to do porn. That's reality.
Also, your video being out there online forever means even if you try to start a new life it will be increasingly difficult to do so.
That's a huge price to pay IMO. Most people never experience this type of situation in their lives so don't understand how much sacrifice this is, but it is.
How do you cope knowing that people win the lottery?
How do you cope knowing that janitors often work harder than landlords?
Also, "depressed," is different than, "discouraged." Careful of your word choice and make sure you are labeling your emotions correctly.
Comparing yourself to others or seeing the world as a meritocracy is always an exercise that will make you upset. There is always someone luckier than you.
Remember that your cousin likely won't want to do this forever, and she'll end up far behind in the job world. She's sprinting and you're running marathon.
1) Somebody wise once said: "Only look in another persons bowl to see if they have enough to eat." Not doing this will cause you to ruminate on all kinds of people's wins at life. In turn, this will cause you, over time, to actually be "depressed" which I don't think you mean to say.
2) She has strengths\talents x and y. You have strengths\talents a and b. She uses hers wisely to make $. Use yours wisely and build something that will stand the test of time way past her ability to use her strengths.
3) She's family. Help each other out. If she's making only $10k a month, why not help her somehow make more? Maybe what you build can help her do just that.
You have to be mentally gone to not understand the emotional consequences of heading down this path.
Selfish is an understatement, pathological.
I gave you the emotional ramifications of taking part in Onlyfans, the impact it can have on everyone you love. Do you disagree with this?
We don’t live in a magic inconsequential world.
You don’t need to cope with anything, you need to learn to check your own ego and not judge other people.
How do you think rich people cope with a friend earning more. They don't, since they ( mostly) don't care. As long as we both are good off, it's good for our friendship.
Balancing a friendship between poor/rich is much more difficult/fragile because of possible jealousy. When you are in the same boat ( eg. We are both doing fine), it's much easier and it's insane how easier friendships become, just because of that "simple" thing.
No one looks at that kind of stuff and goes ‘that’s inspiring, I aspire towards that’.
It’s the same for drug dealing. This is uninspiring, shameful stuff.
You make it sound like you can still do the onlyfans thing. If so, nothing prevents you. You can do it as a side job/gig and stack up twice the cash. I'd guess that if you seriously consider it, you will find that you don't actually want that and you have probably gotten envious over something you don't actually even want. You see easy money, but you haven't factored in the opportunity cost and probable hit to self-respect. You might endanger your current career by getting found out, and your current career should probably last longer.
Really, I think the whole thing should evaporate if you think about it all and understand it. As mentioned elsewhere, most people don't want to get to your cousin's position, they find themselves there for lack of options, lack of discipline, lack of understanding consequences, etc.