Framehole: PageSpeed 6.0 loophole for easy perfect score (buzz.swarmify.com) 4 points by nathanyz 6y ago ↗ HN
[–] nathanyz 6y ago ↗ As Google pushes forward with their new Web Vitals, they left one giant hole in how those are being calculated.
[–] phillipseamore 6y ago ↗ Actual user metrics will likely negate this in search scoring. [–] KingMob 6y ago ↗ Maybe for PageRank. But as long as the Lighthouse score is gameable, we're going to see a lot of web shops use these techniques to appease clients. [–] phillipseamore 6y ago ↗ That's likely. But even an idiot would likely notice the frames loading.But this will likely not game PageRank unless for very unpopular sites (which don't have enough actual user metrics). [–] KingMob 6y ago ↗ Google posted an update saying that the problem is restricted to their local tools, and not PageRank, so that's good.But many places still use PageSpeed, and I wouldn't bet anything vital on clients noticing iframes. [–] nathanyz 6y ago ↗ I agree that user metrics should show the inverse. The problem is that Pagespeed and the new Web Vitals are supposed to be a proxy of user metrics.So business owners will assume that a 100 Pagespeed score actually means a faster website.If the Pagespeed score doesn't represent the actual experience, then isn't that a failure of it's purpose?
[–] KingMob 6y ago ↗ Maybe for PageRank. But as long as the Lighthouse score is gameable, we're going to see a lot of web shops use these techniques to appease clients. [–] phillipseamore 6y ago ↗ That's likely. But even an idiot would likely notice the frames loading.But this will likely not game PageRank unless for very unpopular sites (which don't have enough actual user metrics). [–] KingMob 6y ago ↗ Google posted an update saying that the problem is restricted to their local tools, and not PageRank, so that's good.But many places still use PageSpeed, and I wouldn't bet anything vital on clients noticing iframes.
[–] phillipseamore 6y ago ↗ That's likely. But even an idiot would likely notice the frames loading.But this will likely not game PageRank unless for very unpopular sites (which don't have enough actual user metrics). [–] KingMob 6y ago ↗ Google posted an update saying that the problem is restricted to their local tools, and not PageRank, so that's good.But many places still use PageSpeed, and I wouldn't bet anything vital on clients noticing iframes.
[–] KingMob 6y ago ↗ Google posted an update saying that the problem is restricted to their local tools, and not PageRank, so that's good.But many places still use PageSpeed, and I wouldn't bet anything vital on clients noticing iframes.
[–] nathanyz 6y ago ↗ I agree that user metrics should show the inverse. The problem is that Pagespeed and the new Web Vitals are supposed to be a proxy of user metrics.So business owners will assume that a 100 Pagespeed score actually means a faster website.If the Pagespeed score doesn't represent the actual experience, then isn't that a failure of it's purpose?
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[ 3.3 ms ] story [ 26.4 ms ] threadBut this will likely not game PageRank unless for very unpopular sites (which don't have enough actual user metrics).
But many places still use PageSpeed, and I wouldn't bet anything vital on clients noticing iframes.
So business owners will assume that a 100 Pagespeed score actually means a faster website.
If the Pagespeed score doesn't represent the actual experience, then isn't that a failure of it's purpose?