Ask HN: Where are some good IRC/IM places hackers hang out?

#startups is for idiots - never found it useful just the same 5 people blathering constantly and judging newcomers

#debian-mentors on OFTC is nice

Really any channel where a bot posts recent builds...

Connect to chat.freenode.net, type /list, and find the channels that interest you. :)

#no_hackers_here and #i_will_not_help_you_be_a_stalker