Ask HN: Which books have you read more than once?

63 points by shuaib ↗ HN
For those into reading books, I think it is common practice to pick a new interesting book most of the time. However I want to know if there are books you found so valuable, you went back to it multiple times. Which book(s) was it, and how many times did you read it? What compelled you to reread it?

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"The problems of philosophy" by Bertrand Russell. ~8 times.

"The abolition of man" by "C.S. Lewis" 3 times.

"The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times" by René Guénon. 3 times, and planning to set a weekend for another re-read soon.

I've reread the Abolition Of Man recently and found his conjecture that there may yet come a time when using psychology and technology a small group of people may be able to control everyone else eerily reminiscent to the way ML is being used to custom craft ads that push one opinion or another.
- Sapiens - Richard Dawkin's books
Would recommend checking out Guns, Germs, And Steel if you liked Sapiens. More grounded in research and less hypothetical story-telling on what drove human development in history.
"How Will You Measure Your Life?" by Clayton Christensen. Absolutely love this book and have read and listened to it multiple times. Really provides a fresh perspective on life and work.
I usually read good technical books twice. Recently did that for: Designing Data-Intensive Applications, DynamoDB Book.
Designing Data-Intensive Applications is probably one of the absolute best technical books I've read. I haven't done a second read through, but I can definitely see that being helpful.
Good Night Moon - 187 times

The Cat In The Hat - 200 times

The Very Hungry Caterpillar - 85 times

But seriously, im on my third re-read of Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin, In my opinion its the best book about leadership ever written.

I found “Dichotomy of leadership” by them released in 2018 even better put together and formulated, I guess all these podcast skills came to play. Looking forward to second read.
Hah, I hadn’t even thought about children’s books! When my son was 1-2 years old I had probably 3-4 books like this completely memorized for bedtime. He did too, as occasionally if I would change a phrase for effect “they went to” to “they all went to”, he would often correct me.
The secret of writing childrens' books is to write something that an adult can read 200 times without going insane. You've got to put in something that the adults will smile at.

For slightly older children, try "The Bravest Ever Bear".

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Boom, boom, boom, etc from The Little Mouse, the Red Ripe Strawberry, and the Big Hungry Bear.
HAHA yes!

add Gruffalo, Room on the broom and Snail and the wale for me

Yes! And the Rainbow Magic series - 200 books that are the equivalent of reading 1 book 200 times.
I started that book, got about 60% of the way through, and had to put it down. It seemed like Jocko was re-teaching the same lesson over and over again from slightly different angles.

Maybe I missed something big, but that's just the way it felt to me.

I think you're missing a lot. It might seem repetitive because in almost all the stories Jocko is practicing almost all the principles at the same time, but in different chapters he definitely teaches different lessons.
Extreme ownership is a great book with lots of sound advice. However, I don't find the approach flawless at all.

These guys had the benefit of being leaders in an organization that is set up to rapidly show you the door if you under-perform. Furthermore, everyone that's on a SEAL team desperately wants to be there. To some extent, extreme ownership falls apart in a regular, non-combat focused military unit and also in many civilian organizations.

If you're a Soldier, the military's authority is an illusion. Don't assume that my next statement means that punishment is my first tool for attempting to remedy under-performance, but at some point with some people it becomes necessary. In those extreme cases, even that's not effective because of the way the military operates. Half of the punishments for being lazy/ineffective at your job only work if you voluntarily participate in being a part of the military. Examples: exercise as punishment only works when people choose to exercise. Putting people on punitive details like picking cigarettes up and raking lines in sand for 12 hours a day only work if the people voluntarily do the work. Some people don't show up at all and some only show up to laugh in your face and tell you to go fuck yourself in front of your superiors.

Even the punishments that don't require participation still do require voluntary participation in a way. In the military if you give someone nonjudicial punishment, typically they lose half of their pay for a month or so, and in extreme cases they'll get permanently demoted in addition to that. So you take their money away. However, for the kind of people that aren't doing their job and don't intend to, that doesn't really matter much. You are giving them 3 meals a day and a place to stay. You don't have the power to take that away from them without kicking them out of the military, which in a regular unit often takes well over a year and always requires leadership support, which may not exist given the fact that most units are operating with less people than they need.

It may be hard to see where I'm going, but my point is this. There are people in the military that don't intend to do their jobs. All of us have run into the same type of people in a civilian workplace. You can't inspire them because they don't want to be inspired. You can't lead them to do what they are supposed to do because not doing it is the only control they feel they have over their lives. The only viable option for some people is to remove them or ignore them and spend your precious time on the people that are getting the mission accomplished. In many cases, the latter is your only option.

I'm no Jocko Willink or Leif Babin in terms of being a Soldier or a leader. However, I spent almost 2 decades in the military and helped numerous Soldiers go from under-performing to be very successful. I learned that in some cases, usually when someone regrets joining the military, that you just have to move on. Sometimes, in spite of what extreme ownership claims, things really aren't your fault. As a leader, most things are your fault though, so I do agree with the overall message even if extreme ownership isn't a magic bullet.

Similar people exist in a civilian context.

Hopefully people won't read the above and assume that I avoid responsibility for my mistakes. On the contrary, I was known in the military and in my civilian job as a person that was honest and forthcoming almost to a fault.

Disclaimer: I have no military experience.

Your points on the lessons he mention are very valid. The particular part of the book that matched your description of "this might not work for non SEALs" was when Jocko described how he took full responsibility for a near friendly fire incident. He goes on to say that he earned a lot of respect for being the type of leader that would take accountability. He points out, IIRC, that this respect was gained from both the enlisted men and the officers.

I remember reading that passage and thinking "I've been in plenty of orgs where if someone did that, sure, the 'enlisted' aka line employees might respect that but the 'officers' aka middle managers would immediately think: 'Ah ha! Here is some noble minded fool we can dump our problems on!' "

I'm exaggerating somewhat but only to reinforce the point that I think the book is excellent and agree with you that the lessons taught don't ALWAYS apply.

The most frustrating thing about reading that book is when you encounter management that break all the advice in there, like manufacturing nonstop excuses whenever you bring a work problem to them 'well nobody told me about it...everybody had consensus this was what we were going to do so collectively we all share blame'. After reading you can no longer tolerate this leadership style whereas before I just accepted their answers assuming that's how it worked.
Very clever. What about “ Mr. Brown Can Moo! Can You?”

Do you try to find the mouse on every page in goodnight moon?

"How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie
Yep. I would re-read it on a semi-regular basis as suggested.

I need to go back to it. Unfortunately my much loved copy (with highlights and underlines) was given to a family member so now I am left with my Kindle version.

I've also listened to the millennium version twice.

Hobbit and Lord of the Rings - 3 or 4, including very recently. The latest time I appreciated his background as a writer and the stories behind the story much more. They’re worth a reread as adults.

On the business side I read Deming’s Out of the Crisis several times. The ideas are profound but the writing is mediocre so it took a few times for it to stick.

Check the commentary on LoTR military tactics, hardware, etc on https://acoup.blog/, it's a hell of a rabbit hole to fall into :)
That’s not a rabbit hole, it’s a bottomless pit!
The Kingkiller Chronicle.

Firstly, they're good books and are enjoyable to read a second time round.

Secondly, Rothfuss has laid down plot points like a Go player places stones. The second time reading through will join together disparate pieces of information that you wouldn't have connected together before, starting from very large revelations in the second reading of the first few chapters.

I know of other books that are so rich that you can appreciate new details on multiple readings, but none that re-contextualise the whole story with revelations hidden in plain sight.

Readings: (Name of the wind - 4 times, Wise Man's Fear 5 or 6 times - I like this one more for some reason).

By the time book three comes out, I'll have to re-read the first two, because I won't remember anything about what was going on at the end of book two.
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The Disappearance of the Universe - 4 times
The Bible (technically working on my 2nd cover-to-cover readthrough, but have read individual books in it many times, especially the Gospel of Matthew).

All of Kafka's novels, but especially "The Castle".

Several of PKD's novels: "The Man in the High Castle", "Through a Scanner Darkly", "Ubiq"

"The Silmarillion" (when I was a young adult)

Douglas Adams' "Dirk Gentley's Holistic Detective Agency" (when I was a teenager)

Don't you feel The Man in the High Castle could be so much better? The premise was great and the context was great, but I could never relate to the main story.
How would you improve Man in the High Castle? Like many PKD books it presents a premise which seems, naively, like a veritable paper mill that you could churn out endless books from--and then barely goes anywhere with it. That's part of PKD's style. Yes, the High Castle universe could be made to churn out whole series of formulaic literature, but it would be just that, formulaic. Go write it yourself--you don't need PKD to write it for you, once he's given you the premise.

It's like Kafka said. If you try to make a river too large, it will overflow and you'll end up with mud. There's a certain size at which a river is just right, and any more just detracts from it.

It's not about the river size. Do androids dream of electric sheep? has an amazing premise and a good "main" story.

I don't want a full universe explaining every point; just a compelling story to drive the Man in the High Castle.

I read East of Eden every couple years. I find it settles me and makes me believe in the goodness of Humans every time I read it.
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"Island" - Aldous Huxley.

"Principles" - Ray Dalio.

"On the shortness of life" - Seneca.

Jewish Wisdom for Business Success, Dune, Shoe Dog, On The Road
For many books that I find myself thinking about for years, or just that I enjoyed very much, I will revisit them later. They can be very revealing in how my perspective has changed or that I'll identify with completely different characters, or be awed by a passage that my earlier self overlooked.

Several that come to mind are

Heart of Darkness

Moby Dick

Robinson Crusoe

Pretty much any Chekhov story

Cathedral by Raymond Carver

The Count of Monte Cristo (Robin Buss version)
I tend to re-read my favorites every few years or so, my latest re-read was "A Deepness in the Sky" by Vernor Vinge. Lots to dig into in that book, but my favorite aspect of it is actually how he writes the two different cultures' points of view to skew the reader's perception of the (very) alien culture, only revealing exactly how uncomfortable humans would be around them late in the book.
Douglas Adam's "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency".

Probably the finest work of fiction ever written, and my favorite book of all time. You kind of have to read it twice, the end completely changes the interpretation of the entire rest of the book. It's great.

Avoid spoilers, and also avoid the TV versions - not even the same story, and quite disappointing. The audiobook version, read by Douglas Adams himself, is sublime.

I rather like the Max Landis Dirk Gently series, albeit as its own thing: a drastic reimagining only loosely inspired by the source material, similar to The Shining.

The 2 1/2 Dirk Gently books are Adams' finest in my opinion. HHGTTG is fun, but it doesn't hold together as a cohesive narrative in the same way. It's such a shame that we'll never know how the third book would have resolved.

I can tell you that I've started Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs at least five times. Probably doesn't count.
The Razors Edge - Somerset Maugham

Siddhartha - Herman Hesse

The Hobbit - Tolkien

Fiction: The Inimitable Jeeves by P.G. Wodehouse

Non-fiction: The War of Art by Steven Pressfield

Dragons of Eden by Carl Sagan. It just is amazing in so many ways but it is hard to describe.
“How to get what you want” by Raymond Hull