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I've been shocked by the pricing of the iPad competitors that have been released. The only good ones are more expensive than the iPad unless you buy a subsidized model that ends up costing a thousand dollars more over a two-year contract.

While I have an issue with the walled-garden that is the iOS ecosystem, I don't see any compelling reasons to spend more to get less polish and functionality. I don't plan on buying a tablet, but if I was, I'd get the iPad 2.

Unless the competition can provide a similar quality product a lower price than the iPad, I just don't see it being worth my money.

Wait, what? The iPad 2 costs the same as the original iPad. It differs a bit in different countries, but that's mostly due to exchange rate differences, and Apple has always 'corrected' those when releasing product updates.
Surprisingly absent from the entire article is the actual prices for the iPad and iPad 2 that he's comparing. When I read it I thought the only price difference could be accounted for with inflation, but I'm fairly sure we didn't see 20% inflation last year in the electronics market.
He might be Australian and seeing a 20% decrease in price because of exchange fluctuation.
You are right that there was no price change in the US. However in many international markets there has been a price reduction between the original pricing of the first iPad and the iPad 2. In Australia, the difference is between $50-100 when comparing original iPad launch price and iPad 2 pricing (http://techstyles.com.au/ipad-2-price/ipad/). Funny to see that the case is different from country to country.
I would challenge the notion that Android in aggregate will outsell Apple in any product category due to its "open" nature.

From 2004-2008 the Digital Audio Player market was synonymous with iPod. Apple had and still has ~80% market share. Even now can you name one credible Android device that competes in that market?

Android has made excellent inroads in the mobile phone space because it is free, carriers need a strategic answer to iPhone, and have subsidy power to shift market share.

It seems to me that in the tablet market, where consumers bear the full price of the device, that the dynamic will be more like that of the iPod than iPhone. I wouldn't be surprised to see Apple have 70-80% of the market long term.

> Even now can you name one credible Android device that competes in that market?

I can only speak for myself, but any device that runs Spotify meets my needs perfectly. This includes all contemporary Android devices (and probably all contemporary iOS devices as well).

So, while the Android devices I'm speaking of don't directly compete against the iPod, for me iPod and iPod-like devices are uninteresting.

>Android has made excellent inroads in the mobile phone space because it is free, carriers need a strategic answer to iPhone, and have subsidy power to shift market share.

I know that until quite recently, in the U.S. Apple had an exclusive deal with AT&T for the iPhone. Apple was not similarly locked down in other markets.

Does Android have similar success in the UK and France where the iPhone is available on multiple carriers?

I think Android will be strong on tablets, but they are not today.

If Apple builds the iPad brand with premium apps that people buy, users will have the same inertia on the iPad that windows users have with Windows: I don't want to re-buy all my apps just to get the "also-ran" model from <insert tablet maker here>.

I believe that's the reason why Apple is touting Garageband and iMovie on the iPad. Apple is hoping that people stick around because of the software.

It's strange that I've never once heard anyone claim that the weird US phone networks have given Apple an advantage.

Imagine if your broadband provider forced you to spend at least $600 dollars on a laptop every two years. You could spend a bit more and so get a $1000 dollar laptop for "only" $400 dollars, or you could get a $600 laptop for "free", and laptops below $600 dollars simply wouldn't make sense, and neither would sticking with your current device (note you're only allowed to connect one device at time, two devices need two broadband connections). You'd be throwing away money in that scenario since they'd still charge you the $600 dollars over your contract term and it would make complete sense for you as an individual to upgrade each time to another high-end machine (even though Europeans would be completely baffled by your collective behaviour and your insistence that mid-range Acer and Asus machines are "free" and therefore "worthless" since they buy their computers and broadband connections separately, or at least if bundled they get an appropriate discount for buying less expensive machines).

In that kind of distorted market I can imagine Apple doing quite well, since their competitors would be forced to compete on their mid-to-high-end terms, on their home turf, in a market quite unlike that of other nations.

You seem to imply that in some pure, completely free phone market Apple would be priced out. Unfortunately, that market does not exist.

So Apple understood the market conditions and adapted to them ? More power to them.

A (relatively) free market for phones does exist globally, and Apple's first mover advantage (and the profits and marketshare it brings) is being rapidly diminished in a fairly textbook case of free market competition. I believe Tim Cook has gone on record about these price pressures.

But that wasn't my point.

My point was that people within the U.S. bubble seem to recognize on some level that they've got a weird market dynamic for smartphones. But they seem to think that this has only helped Android ("because it's free"), and hindered Apple.

Which seems a bit odd to me, as outlined in my first post. I think people who are outside the bubble can understand this better since a) Android is doing well outside the bubble too, so we don't need to look for crazy excuses to explain this "anomaly" b) we have a better grasp on the distortions that those in the bubble experience because we have an outside perspective (e.g. Android phones are not actually "free", nor do iPhones cost $200).

You raise a great point, but as far as I know, there hasn't been an Android device playing in the digital music players category. In the iPod market, it seems that the rest of the tech world just conceded to Apple.

From a pure economics perspective, what is called today 'open' and what was called 'IBM compatible' in the 80's, would always win a greater market share in the long term. It's a simple matter of supply & demand.

Android is displacing Nokia in the phone market, claiming out the low-margin, low-price sector. It's not uncommon to find free Android phones from carriers today where you'd be getting some unbelievably wacky Nokia phone two years ago.
The iPad 2 costs 499, just like the iPad 1 one year ago. the iPad 1 costs 399 now. I guess that confused him.
Exactly - the premise of the whole article is incorrect.
The conclusion of the article is that by pricing relatively low, Apple makes "the attractive new market for tablets a lot less attractive for companies planning to sell less than 10 million tablets this year."

While the claim that the new iPad is cheaper than its predecessor aims to highlight Apple's pricing strategy, it is not a premise. Even if the iPad 2 was more expensive than the original iPad, it could still be cheap in relation to competitive offerings. It could be sold at a price allowing only for small profit margins without economies of scale. His premise is that it is.

No. The article states that Apple has priced their tablet $100 cheaper than the first iPad; it surmises due to high competition in the marketplace, Apple have adjusted their pricing structure to gain a competitive advantage.

This is a premise and it's also incorrect.

The iPad is being sold at the same price as the previous offering. They haven't adjusted their pricing strategy.

Here in Sweden, the iPad 2 costs less on introduction than the iPad 1 did. Possibly favourable dollar value with regard to the swedish krona did that.
Even then. I don't see how $499 is $100 lesser than $399. It's wrong information being interpreted wrongly.
You are right that there was no price change in the US. However in many international markets there has been a price reduction between the original pricing of the first iPad and the iPad 2. In Australia, the difference is between $50-100 when comparing original iPad launch price and iPad 2 pricing (http://techstyles.com.au/ipad-2-price/ipad/). Funny to see that the case is different from country to country.
I think the real question here is - why does it cost $100 to have 3G ability when a 3G dongle is just a few bucks?
You could rephrase that question as: why do companies charge what the market can bear?
Because the market can bear it! Uh... I think I see what you did there...