Launch HN: Sidekick (YC S20) – A hardware device to connect remote teams

170 points by achen187 ↗ HN
Hi HN,

I'm Andy, one of the founders at Sidekick (https://sidekick.video/). Sidekick is a new hardware device built to connect remote teams with an always-on video call.

Sidekick sits on your desk next to your computer — with Sidekick you just turn to your teammates and talk, as if you're in the same room.

Like many of you all, we were recently forced to start working remotely because of COVID. After fleeing NYC to return to our childhood homes, we quickly realized that starting a company while remote was brutal. We were missing out on all the spontaneous conversations and camaraderie that occur when we're in the same room. We knew we needed to simulate being in the same room to build our company.

Initially we built Sidekick just for ourselves, but many of the founders in our YC batch wanted to try it out! We realized that our founding team wasn't an anomaly for wanting an always-on video device — we pivoted from our previous idea to start working on Sidekick to help the other founders in our batch.

Sidekick works best with fast-paced teams that need to be constantly communicating — founders are a great example. We're working with 25 YC founding teams along with experimental product teams at Store No. 8 and Brex. That being said, Sidekick isn't for everyone! If you don't really want to talk to your team during the day, Sidekick probably isn't a great fit.

We talked to many teams that tried to hack together a solution with Zoom on an iPad. From the teams we spoke to, we learned that it's really hard to consistently get the team in the room at the same time. Users are constantly leaving the room for other meetings but for everyone still in the room, it seems like nobody wants to use it because it's empty. This causes a negative feedback loop where even more people leave the room and the hacked together solution quickly becomes useless.

Sidekick is built to maximize the chances that you're not in the room alone. Unlike other jerry-rigged solutions, it treats "always-on" as a first-class problem to solve. Some examples of product decisions we've made are:

- Push notifications to minimize being alone in the room - when someone joins as the first person in the room, we send a notification to the rest of the team. We want to get other teammates in the room ASAP because the room is only useful with more than one person.

- Meeting mode - when you have a normal Zoom meeting with someone outside of your team, you can mark yourself as "in a meeting". This silences the mic and speakers on Sidekick while also setting a status informing your team that you're in a meeting, but you'll be back soon if someone needs you. We're also releasing Google Calendar integration soon, allowing Sidekick to automatically mark itself as "in a meeting"

On average our users are in their Sidekick rooms for 6 hours a day. They turn it on first thing when they sit down in the morning and leave it on throughout all their meetings during the day.

Our customers pay for Sidekick with a subscription model and we have a special promotion until Aug 1st for $25/user/month. The hardware comes for free and we handle all the shipping. We went with this model because we want our customers to pay us for the experience, not the hardware. We didn't want customers to have to think about whether they wanted to buy a pricy new device when the real question should be whether they want to try the experience.

We believe that working in the same room is part of the secret sauce to building an awesome company. We want all teams to be able to have access to that experience.

I really love this community and I'm excited to share Sidekick with all of you. We'd love to hear your feedback, particularly if you're working on a team that misses being in the same room. Feel free to ask any questions — I'll be around to answer anything...

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Not a fan. Seems like an invasion of privacy for companies to put an always-on security camera in your home. Didn't Orwell call them Telescreens?
Only if it's mandated by the company.
No, did you mean 'low brow dismissal' ?
Is it always on?

This is an interesting problem. How to recreate a “frosted glass” that’s introvert friendly (there’s a disorder that affects X% of the population where they can’t work if they’re being watched...the name escapes me) while reducing the friction of adhoc interactions (time, clicks, etc).

Hopefully there’s some interesting solutions soon.

One thing this solution perhaps doesn’t address is portability. Sure you can take the device with you, but will you? So it’s a “home office” solution not a “remote as in Starbucks” (if that ever exists again) solution.

Neat idea!

The frosted glass is a great idea! We'll definitely give it some thought.

Regarding portability, we were actually pleasantly surprised to learn that a lot of our users took Sidekick with them when they found different homes to shelter in place. We're thinking about adding some software companion apps to help with this as well.

edit: yes it's always-on, but you have the capability to turn it off easily with one button click.

Definitely understand the privacy concern - we know that our product won't fit every home office setup depending on the living circumstances. It depends on how close and comfortable a team feels with each other. Our teams are already close-knit and miss the feeling of being in the same room together. We're thinking of adding virtual backgrounds to help with this too.
As Joe walks in wearing underwear... (I'm serious, I code in my unders half the time, esp in the summer (no a/c)). That could get awkward.
That has nothing to do with the product. If you don't want to be on camera in your underwear, don't turn a camera on while in your underwear.
Yes, someone read 1984 and thought it was a business idea book.
> Sidekick is a new hardware device […]

So your "new hardware device" is a Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 (2019) with a stand, isn't it?

What's your motivation to offer hardware instead of selling the Android app separately as well, so customers could use it without the hassle of getting hardware shipped?

A guess? Hardware startups mean money to investors. ;)
Do they though? I thought investors heavily favor software because of infinite scaling.
All of our current customers wanted to try the experience without actually having to purchase and own a new expensive device. We really wanted to lower the barrier for anyone who wanted to give us a chance.

We also handle all shipping/return costs -- we're trying to minimize any burden on the customers.

What happens when an employee has one stolen? or coffee spilled on it?

How many free tablets can I get for $25/mo? What do you do when you realize someone has spilled coffee on 3 tablets, and now their credit card isn't rebilling and they aren't responding to email?

You can dream up all of these scenarios. But if you have a healthy business then a small number of people scamming you for Galaxy Tab's doesn't kill it.
Well, of course, that's the case for big corpo; but being a small startup with _limited_ budget, I think the bill can scale up pretty quickly.

Hopefully not, though, I truly like the product.

hasn't been a problem yet, but definitely something we're thinking about!
The margins are pretty fat ($25/mo for hardware that costs $200) and unless they have a particular knack for finding petty thieves I expect that they will lose fewer than 1% of their tablets to fraud.
I guess the same reason why companies lease hardware like laptops for their employees.
Yes except the leasing cost is not $150% of the cost of the laptop per year.
I was really split on mentioning this but I picked up Camo after reading it mentioned on HN somewhere:

https://reincubate.com/camo/

It’s yearly subscription software but doing the app route you mentioned. Grabbed a little iPhone camera mount clip for like 10 bucks and it’s really something.

Thanks for the link. Isn’t this using your main computer still and the same as using a comp webcam in terms of availability?
Haha yeah a $200 tablet for $300 a year!!! Bargain. I’d rather just use afterpay if I was that poor.
Crazy how bad at math you’d have to be to think this was a deal.
Congrats on launching, especially with a physical device. Quick question, if I commit to the promotional pricing now, can I scale up and add more users to my plan for the same price per user after Aug 1st?
I wish you the best of luck in your new endeavours.
Did you guys consider putting some kind of authentication on the device when unlocking it? It seems to me that the device should check that you are who you say you are before showing you your coworkers (especially if your team works on sensitive/trade secret-y stuff). Or to make sure your kids don’t come stare at your coworkers while they’re in flow ;)

Maybe it’s not a problem unless someone breaks in to your home/office, but at the very least a passcode might be nice if you lock it for x amount of minutes. It’s often a requirement for regulatory compliance as well (although if a company has to have an airtight setup I don’t know if they’d be the target market).

(If you have this feature, then that’s swell! It looks very cool, even if it reminds me a bit of the telescreen from 1984...)

That's a great point. We actually haven't run into that issue yet, but it seems like it could very easily happen. Thanks for the idea!
We've been using Sidekick for the last week or so, and I can give it two-thumbs-up. I feel more connected to my co-founders than I have since COVID started, and tbh, the interface is a piece of cake to use. The difference in feeling like we're all grinding away towards the same goals again is amazing. Props to the Sidekick team for getting us to realize the benefits of something slightly uncomfortable (always-on video) and providing us with the device to do it!
Did you try something else before? We are all sitting in a Jitsi Meet conference all day and it works fine so far. We even added a "private call" button on the video tiles in order to quickly initiate a 1-on-1. How is the "select person to talk" feature working for you?
Haven't used Jitsi Meet before, but for 1-on-1, I'm pretty sure Sidekick has that in their dev pipeline already -- tbh, having them provide the device/stand and the features to automatically handle reminding me to join/simple single-press to open the chat make the experience far simpler than using a software-only solution. For the intro $25/mo, this is a no-brainer if it improves communication, even just for one good conversation.
This feels like bit of a knee-jerk reaction to the sudden shift towards remote only work. Don't get me wrong, I like the premise as I've definitely felt disconnected from my team recently, but I don't think this quite solves the problem. If it did we'd just sit in a Google Hangout meeting all day. We (and I imagine a lot of others) have already tried this and it didn't work. No one can really put their finger on why, we just know something was still missing.

I think it has to do with the medium. Maybe the answer involves coming up with some sort experience that doesn't feel as dry and disconnected as video conferencing. This is where the idea of course becomes hand wavy -- but maybe it involves some use of AR, or a projector -- who knows.

If I were in your shoes I'd be thinking about a game-changer, instead of an incremental enhancement of video conferencing. Maybe that's bad advice, but I know I don't find this offering terribly compelling.

We're still really early on, so we're also trying to figure out what that missing "something" is. We're totally in the same boat.

From interviews, our theory is that it's because most of the time, the Hangouts all day solution decays because people have too many experiences being alone in the room.

Again still really early, so we're also figuring it out but thanks for the data point!

Gotcha. Makes sense.

Good luck :). I'll stay dialed in and genuinely hope y'all knock it out of the park so I can reconnect with my colleagues!

I've noticed that with my skype-to-the-office setup where I leave it on, the resource use (mostly bandwidth) bugs me in the back of my mind.

That makes the experience a little uncomfortable as an always-on thing.

I'd definitely like to know that resource use was minimal when I wasn't in a conversation or actively engaged with the system.

I think that having the system as an appliance is a plus and makes it more comfortable to just leave on - versus something running in a window on a screen from my work laptop.

> This feels like bit of a knee-jerk reaction to the sudden shift towards remote only work.

This isn't a super new thing, though. There have been a number of companies in the past 5-10 years that offered similar functionality without the hook of having a separate device (Sqwiggle, pukkateam, sneek, etc).

This is one of the best points made. I felt the same way in HN being far too harsh. Seeing other apps along the same connectedness theme gives a good perspective.

I had only tried Pragli and it is underwhelming. Too much cpu usage even after they removed snapshots of you. The Spotify integration is te one nice feature none of the others have.

Thanks for the names of apps. Going to try the latter two.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be harsh.

By "knee-jerk" I didn't mean new, but meant that it lacked depth. Hopefully my elaboration clarified that I think the company is on the right track, just that they need to go a bit further and extend beyond what traditional video conferencing already (kind of) offers.

They're doing that, and they're a startup -- so I know they're starting lean and that they'll learn, change and add bells and whistles as time goes. This is the right way to do things :).

Sorry I wasn’t meaning you specifically or at all for my comment. I don’t remember now who I was thinking of. But me making someone else feel bad wouldn’t make sense with being unhappy with “harshness”.

Thanks for your clarification and overall I agree with your original issue.

I have a small but growing community of people from before corona with the center piece being a 24/7 Zoom meeting room and yeah it has never felt fully right. It still works out, but it does feel as if there’s something off.

Looks like it's still an early stage. Nice to see that it has something I wanted to implement in Jitsi Meet - "select person to talk". Other than that I don't see the appeal other than the subscription model for the hardware if you are an employer. Would be nice to see something like Facebook's Portal, so that it could be also placed in bigger rooms, where it could follow the speaker.
Following the speaker is a really cool feature, and is something we might get to at some point.

Sidekick is built to be always-on so teammates can feel like they're in the same room. Many teams we spoke to have tried doing it with Zoom or Jitsi, but they all decay because it's really hard to get people in the room, at the same time. Sidekick's features try to maximize the chances that you're not in the room alone.

I think everyone focusing on the "always on" aspect is missing the point.

This is a standalone device which takes care of a major part of the headache in transitioning to remote work -- a second monitor and webcam, a whiteboarding device, and a "who's online for me to talk to" visibility feature.

It's like paying $25 to bring the social experience of an office to your remote work environment without worrying about technical details or availability issues.

"Someone has their camera on? Cool, I can ping them, no worries."

The only feature I'd like to see is a "camera off but still pingable" mode, but honestly, I'd probably put a piece of tape over the camera and it'd work just fine.

This is great feedback. We wanted to make all communication on Sidekick bi-directional -- if I can see you, you can see me. This is to prevent any abuse of the product.

The idea makes sense though, and it's something we'll definitely think about.

"camera off but still pingable"

That's called Facetime'ing someone.

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Yep or zooming them, or microsoft teaming them.

IBM released a very popular set of working from home guidelines - one of the absolute most important rules is that you never ask an employee to turn on their cameras - it's an invasion of privacy.

> The only feature I'd like to see is a "camera off but still pingable" mode

i think that's called a slack message, or maybe email.

I think the difference is that "pingable" means you are happy to have someone ping you.

My understanding is that camera on = talk to me at any time. And maybe some users would still like that openness, without worrying if someone is watching them pick their nose.

A Slack message would start with "Hey, can we connect at some point..."

depends on how you use slack. if youre using it to its highest potential, people are setting their slack statuses appropriately and you can tell who is in the zone vs not, etc. i really think a lot of this stuff is a process problem. the tools are all there
I’m working on a tool to make that super easy (holopod.com).

We think we can solve for the impromptu conversations with a specified custom status that folks can trigger when open to a conversation (Eg. Water cooler, coffee break, etc).

Would love any feedback!

Sorry but we're not missing anything. Not wanting to have micro managing overlords in your own home is perfectly natural. If you have this and your boss pings you - then the power imbalance puts pressure on you to accept. Any company implementing this is basically saying - we don't trust our employees. Ok, well I won't work for you then.

All those things come with an ipad or a second monitor and you have a lot more control.

I don't get it.

HWe use an RTC room on existing PC, with an alert and PTT mode. so we have always on listen-audio. Its like a web-based walkie-talkie (remember Nextel?) It's rigged to our Mattermost too

Ours cost like $500 to build - this would cost us over $500 every two months at discount price.

Whoa that's a super cool setup, and one I haven't seen before. I'd love to learn more if you have a writeup anywhere?

And how many teammates do you have? It seems like 10?

No write-up, I'll post one (or you can DM me).

7 core staff, 3-5 contractors and we let our clients in too. Most solutions breakdown for us because of our loose definition of "user"

please post the writeup instead of DMing!
This is a great idea for a product. I have worked remotely for the past ten years and not having easy interactions with team members has always been a problem.

Lately, I've had a laptop in my office's cube with Skype and VNC set up so I can connect any time I want and leave myself virtually present for hours at a time. I like it. I'm sure that a dedicated product could offer more features and efficiencies than I have with my jury-rigged setup.

Best of luck to you.

Whoa, that's an awesome setup. Do you still have this or is your office closed?
It's still set up, but the office is mostly closed so it's not very helpful.
A company owned always on video and listening device in my home? How about not.
We totally agree that this would be terrible - any company listening to their employees goes against the mission of the company. We built Sidekick for the subset of teams that actually want to feel like they're in the same room. They actually want to be on camera so they can turn to their teammates and talk.
Is the data end to end encrypted and do you have any management capabilities on the device?
Did you do a trademark search yet? T-Mobile US had a Sidekick device not long ago and may not have abandoned their registration.
Thanks for the heads-up. We'll take a look.
In particular, T-Mobile's last "Sidekick" device was an Android phone. You should probably start looking for a new name now.
What in the farm-to-table, gluten free, non-GMO, freshly chopped silicon valley hell is this?!?

Why would anyone WANT to be on an always on video chat?

If an employer ever sent me one of these, they would get it back (with my resignation) immediately.

Thanks for the feedback. We're still really early so it's great to understand what people's reactions are.

We understand that Sidekick isn't for everyone and that's totally cool! We built it for those teams that work best while they're in the same room. These teams actually want to be on camera so they can turn and talk as if they're sitting side by side. Founders are a great example.

This is a good idea! Latency can be a big pain for web conferencing. Are the video streams sent directly to the other clients, or are they relayed through a central server?
Thanks and totally agree - especially since we're trying to enable frictionless communication, we knew we had to minimize latency from the get-go.

We use the standard WebRTC model where 1:1 Sidekicks are peer-to-peer (video streams sent directly to other clients), and 3+ Sidekicks go through SFUs that we host on AWS. These SFUs deployed all around in the world (in every major AWS region), and we assign Sidekicks to the SFU nearest to everyone on their team.

Internally the metric we aim for is to keep the end-to-end latency under 200ms.

Why is this necessary when there are already many examples of successful remote companies that don't need to constantly watch and listen to their employees?
I totally understand and agree that there are a ton of awesome remote companies that were able to do it with mostly async communication. We built Sidekick for the subset of newly remote teams that actually need to be in the same room to get their jobs done (certain types of cofounders or operations teams). The product itself actively discourages any sort of "watch and listen to employees". All communication is bidirectional -- if I can see you, you can see me. We're totally in the same boat that we would never want Sidekick to be used as a monitoring tool -- it would go against the DNA of our company.
I think zoom is already getting into similar. Also feel pricing is a bit on expensive side for what you are providing
Zoom and Facebook Portal are still just trying to make meetings marginally better with a dedicated device. We're going after a different niche where teams need to actually feel like they're in the same room with an always-on call.
So just have an always on meeting using Zoom/Portal. How is that any different?
We talked to a bunch of teams that tried this. It's really hard to get people into the call at the same time. Eventually, there are enough bad experiences of being alone that people stop using it.

Sidekick's features maximize the chances you're not alone. Some examples are outlined in the original post!

Seems like a pretty gross security and privacy risk with extremely limited upside for the employee, all with the friction of supporting a totally separate device for a remote IT org if anyone adopts this Orwellian tool at scale.
It would be Orwellian if imposed by employers, of course. But for teams who really would prefer to be colocated, why shouldn't they use something like this as a next-best option? It should be up to the users.
Totally agree that there's a huge privacy risk if it were abused by employers.

The teams that use Sidekick want to feel like they're in the same room with an always-on video -- it's actually the most effective way to get their jobs done.

I immediately saw what needs this fills, that for remote work we need a kind of digital presence somewhere between zoom video conference, which demands everyone’s full attention, and is either presentational or one on one, and slack, which feels too asynchronous and formal.

Like others i’m not convinced that the answer is another screen or if it’s some other kind of in between semi passive experience.

Once it disappears it’s interesting to consider what specific qualities of just turn and talk to someone is absent in remote work and how you could bridge some of those feelings with some kind of digital experience. A projector? A robot? VR? AR?

Remote work had made me more finely attuned to how many physical non verbal cues you exchange with office mates on a daily basis and how exhausting it can feel to duplicate those digitally.

Thanks for the feedback and it's awesome to hear that you experience the problem we're trying to solve.

From our early users, the screen is awesome - it's the closest thing that exists to sitting in the same room.

The idea of another way to simulate "semi-passive experience" is really interesting. We'll definitely keep it in mind!

Finally someone built this! I HATE juggling video windows vs. application windows.

2 Questions:

- Can I still share my screen?

- Your "How it Works" section says $50/user/month but your "Get the Band Back Together" section says $25/user/month. Then the titlebar says "$25/user/month until august 1st". So.... is it $25/user/month in July and then goes up?

- Can I still share my screen? We recommend all our customers to try using https://screen.so/ It's awesome, in slack you type /screen and immediately start a multiplayer screen share. Here's a video fo how it works: https://www.loom.com/share/f7941a18a501424db3656b4603cb1179

- Regarding pricing, it's $25/user/month if you sign up before August 1st and that price is locked in for life. (The $50 is a mistake, and we're changing it right now)

It may sell but only if you hype it a lot. As an idea this is very low in the scale in terms of originality or functionality.
For the sake of mental health and privacy, I hope this product crashes and burns.
We totally understand that this product isn't for everyone. Sidekick works best for teams that actually want to feel like they're in the same room with an always-on video. These are really fast-paced teams like cofounders or operations teams.
Sorry, but you do not understand that this product isn't for everyone. All it takes is one management loony to throw money at this and make employees own homes as their prisons.

How ever, unlike the parent comment I wish you would succeed and you will account for the visceral hatred from a lot of us to build a lot of privacy features into your product and not get tempted to turn this product into virtual peeping tom for micro managers.

For the sake of my mental health I hope it succeeds. My mental health has been in severe jeopardy just being in a room talking to coworkers just during specific topic-oriented meetings.
What stops you from talking to your coworkers casually using any other method? Half my chats are casual conversations, some of which will turn to a call if its specific topic-oriented.

I think looking for a product to solve this may not be the most efficient way to help the mental state. In fact, reaching out to more people into the company is easier than ever now, just a message away.

I don’t want to talk to them I just want to feel like someone is in the room.
Yep. Couldn't agree more. This reads like a group of co-founders and all their mates/YC cohorts saying how great a product is because they want it to be a great idea so bad.
How is this any different than having an always-on zoom room on my iPad?
We spoke to many teams that tried jerry-rigging an always-on zoom on an iPad. It was really hard to get people in the room at the same time.

We built Sidekick to maximize the chances that you're not alone in the room. I talk more about some of the features in the original post!