Ask HN: How do you switch off from work, particularly when working from home?

327 points by OnWriting ↗ HN
I often have trouble switching off from work during the week as my workspace is my 1BR apartment. I don't have this problem on the weekends, as I don't 'start' a working day.

Given that not starting work during the week isn't an option, any tips on how to switch off after-hours during the work week?

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My approach is - continue the regular routine. Get dressed for work and change clothes after work is done. Use dedicated computer for work and just turn it off after the work is done. I do have a separate "office" room, so that does help too.

Can't say I'm always successful, but I find that routines like dressing up for work, setting up a dedicated computer, etc. help.

I second the advice to keep the routine. I don't have a separate office at home. What I do after work however is clean up my desk and stash away the company laptop and any other work-related things somewhere out of sight.
Turn on a movie or TV show.

I actually stop work every day at 7pm because that is when Jeopardy comes on.

Simply switching devices helps. If it's after 5pm and I don't have any meetings or tasks that I can complete by 6pm, I turn off the work laptop and put it away until the next morning.
> Simply switching devices helps.

Getting off devices entirely is even better.

That's so true. It sucks a bit when you develop a lot of 'online' hobbies, like gaming, reading blogs, etc. But backpains will make even the most hardcore games into runners :)
I hope musical instruments don't count as "devices". :-)
Yep, this helps for me too. I sign off my work laptop between 5-6pm and don't get any notifications on my other devices.
Move from using devices to other hobbies like being with the family, kids, books, or just hanging out with friends

If you are into fitness.. all the better.

Prayer, meditation are some of the other things that you can focus on.
I started learning to play a bass guitar, really helps to reset.
I started WFH with Covid.

To separate work from hobby I turned the Dining Table into my "Work Desk" and kept my Desk as "Hobby Desk". I start every day by setting up the work desk and end work by returning my chair to the hobby desk. This keeps the two separated.

Also: Preparing dinner and taking at least half an hour to do something without screens after work.

I don't so much switch off, as switch modes, by forcing some kind of "commute". Sometimes this involves going for a run, or even a walk around the block; other times it's half an hour in a VR headset (I have an Oculus Quest, which helped hugely during shielding and lockdown). But whatever it is, I just make it long enough and different enough from work that when I return to reality/the flat, I've got my not-work head on.
Prepare and eat some delicious dinner, as a routine, when you have finished working.
I start reading my current fiction book.
1. Define environments

I work on the left side of my desk, while spending my private time sitting on the right side.

2. Rituals

I start the workday by setting up my work laptop on the desk and finish the workday by removing the laptop from the desk.

Setting boundaries is paramount. Do this physically. Once I'm no longer working, I don't have a single thought about work. Work ceases to exist when I'm done with the workday.

Me too. I used to hook my laptop up to my desktop screen/keyboard/mouse, but I no longer do in order to create those queues.

I'm also the same in that once work is done, it's gone, I don't think about it, answer emails or check slack. If I didn't make the brutal, no exceptions separation I would never enjoy life or work and I would burn out (again).

Furthermore, I would add to the first point, separate computers for working and entertainment.
Good point. That's exactly what I'm doing. Almost regard it as given, but of course, some don't have a separat device for work.
Some people are not so lucky to have a good work machine for their needs.

If the company allows working from home computer, it can be tempting to use that if it is more powerful.

That's true. I've been thinking about setting up dual-boot or at the least having separate accounts.
For a lot of people I know (all located in europe, maybe that makes the difference) the only 'desktop/laptop' they have, is work issued. So it's the other way around.

Just create 2 logins on it, one for work, one for private.

Either CrossFit in the evening (at home or in the German gym) or cycling outdoors (or at Zwift.com) or cooking with the family. Then coding again on private projects.
I have kids
I met a guy that was in your situation.

He would wake up with an alarm clock, shower, get dressed "properly", eat etc. Then leave the house and walk in a predetermined path around the block to arrive back at his house for "work". When work was over (at a set time) he would get up, leave the house again, walk the path in reverse, and arrive "home".

ymmv.

I was going to suggest to take a walk, but this is even better.
This is fantastic, going to try it out tomorrow
I follow the same routine. Make sure to hug the kids and never let them in the room. I realized the walk makes quite a big difference, especially with cabin fever in quarantine.
One other thing that can help is if you have a badge, lanyard or work clothes you put them on when you start work and take them off when you finish as you might in the office as normal. Assuming you work in an office that is.
lanyard

Hah! I just realized, I haven't seen my lanyard / "dork badge" in like 4 months. If/when we are asked to return to the office, I'll probably never find the darn thing.

Funny, I've not even used my work backpack in months now. Last I remember I put my badge in one of the pockets. I assume it's still there...
Did this for a while. For anyone trying this, make sure the path is decently long (15min is nice in my experience), and that you build it into your morning routine - for me, I was not allowed to take my coffee before going for the walk.
Lol same idea... except that the morning commute was getting coffee. There were 2-3 places near me, and a 4th that is kinda far, so I'd throw in an extra around-the-block if I went to a closer one.

But yeah, get out, get moving. Inertia, man.

If you can, use a bike instead of walking for the same amount of time - you might love the long-term results.
this is actually a nice idea, I'll try that.
I've recently solved part of it by having a fixed end hour for work, which works fine. But apparently there is a related problem, which is that I sometimes end up wasting the rest of the day out of pure inertia. A bit of netflix, a bit of home gym, reading forums and so on. Not a terrible waste of time, but it adds up, and I definitely don't want this to be all.

I don't have much to say on a solution, other than possibly treating your free time in a more "work-like" manner, i.e. with things to do and (softer) deadlines.

Taking a walk after finishing my work day. And afterwards spending time with my girlfriend and dog. I'd assume having kids will make this also easier.
In my case, in order to overlap my company's work hours, I work from about 1500-2300. So when I'm done with work, I basically wash up, brush my teeth and go to bed.

I have found that listening to some atmospheric music is usually sufficient to help me fall asleep.

Since I get up around 0700 to take care of "normal" stuff, cooking, cleaning, getting groceries, etc. I'm usually pretty tired by that point.

I think the important thing for me is having the routine, i.e. I'm very clear when I'm in work mode vs. non-work mode.

But yeah, sometimes it is hard to switch off, particularly if I'm working on a complex project or task.

I've two PCs (one work and one personnal).

At 5PM my work day is over and I go for a walk (4-5 km). This help me to clear my mind and also help me to not spend too much time on my personnal PC after.

While expensive for some this is a good idea. Another option would be to dual boot.

Keep all work related code, apps, and accounts off your personal PC/boot so you aren't tempted to look or "check in" on things.

I've been WFH for about 12 years now on a single PC, but that idea sounds good as I am guilty of checking in on things here and there.

Having different PC profiles/users is usually enough. After several years of that, I found that just having multiple desktops was enough (and a bit more convenient). For gaming though, I switch to another user profile.
I have a specific laptop (personal one, apart from the company issued one) for working only, so when I'm done I simply turn off the machine(linux) and turn on the machine(windows) where it's hard to do some work.

I'm not saying that windows makes it hard to work on, just my windows machine is set up in that way (no IDEs, no programming languages installed - just games and browsers)

Been WFH for a couple of years, then rented a small office for the purpose of explicitly distancing work and non-work. With COVID-19, back to WFH but now I'm much more prepared.

Success for me meant mentally separating as much as possible work and non-work (not always possible as I can get customer calls or need to deal with urgent problems at literally any hour - such is life of an entrepreneur!)

Physically - separate your work place from the rest. In order or impact:

- rent a separate office (expensive, doesn't make sense now with COVID-19)

- find a few coffe shops, libraries or similar places you can switch between for "work" area (assuming you can work on a laptop) - also not realistic now due to the coronavirus

- have a separate room in a house - not applicable to you as you're in a 1BR apt

- have a separate work-dedicated corner/table/chair in any room in your apartment - I worked for about half a year from kitchen, as it was still at least no in the living room!

Temporally - make clean cuts "going to" and "returning from" work. This can be:

- switching betewen clothes to get in different modes

- taking your dog for a walk, buying groceries, or just taking out trash right after your work

- if there's something on TV that has regular hours and you like watching it (as someone already commented here) - use it to mentally switch off from work mode

- if nothing else, set an alarm, when it gets off, close your laptop, stand up and do a random house chore for 10 minutes, just to think of something totally unrelated :)

Devices:

- it helps if you can have separate devices for work and the rest of your digital life; I treat my laptop as 90% work-related so I avoid using it outside of work if at all possible (phone / tablets filling up the gaps)

- similarly how you want to remove procrastination while working, you want to remove any work-related notifications when not! see if you can stop mail/slack/etc notifications outside your work hours (in my case, i turn off all notifictaions* except pager duty alarms)

In my WHF experience, both before and now during COVID, the biggest problem was working all day, then being less productive during work hours because I know I'll still work all day, then having to work day because I'm less productive during work hours .... this spiral was why I rented an office back in the day.

Every situation and person is different, these are just some tactics that worked for me.

I have exact times for workday start/end and lunchtime start/end. I just abruptly stop what I'm doing when the hour comes.

Also there are things I want to do after work I'm looking forward to. So I waste no time thinking in-between.

We have the same situation. The thing is I have some personal programming projects to unwind too, not to mention I watch Netflix from my browser, not my Smart TV. Switching devices help; I have a work-issued laptop that is strictly for work, and a personal laptop that is exactly for non work stuff (duh, couldn't get any plainer).

When WFH started, like most we were actually caught a bit flat-footed in some respects. So I only had my personal laptop to use for WFH too. Before they issued me a laptop, simple acts like logging off VPN, having a dedicated work profile in Firefox and closing _that_, works to compartmentalize my day too.

Finally, best 150 EUR I spent is on a second-hand trekking bike. Nothing like having a hobby that is so different from your work to enforce boundaries. I have other hobbies too but they are physically too similar to work; aside from hobby side projects I also draw and read, etc, stuff that are just as sedentary as programming. The bike let me explore parks and trails I wouldn't otherwise, and even gave me a quicker route to the gym than if I took the bus.

- Get dressed to go to work; get my keys, wallet, phone etc

- Have breakfast

- Have separate place for work (although mine is kinda-integrated in the living room nowadays with a nice view on the garden. I used to go up the stairs in our previous home.

- end of work: dinner time, somewhere between 17:00 and 18:00 roughly. No work after dinner, except very occasionally.

If possible, I find that the best way is to have commitment with someone to do something at the end of the day. Having this at least once a week is good as it's mentally harder to scrap than something involving just yourself.
Home worker for a decade here. Biggest and best piece of advice: take work email off your phone. Better: put your smart phone upstairs on silent after end of working day and leave it there. Best: don't have a smartphone.
> Biggest and best piece of advice: take work email off your phone.

Sometimes it is handy to have email. Unless you are in a huge corporation with 24/7 coverage by other employees there will come a time when something urgent needs your attention.

I just disable push on my work account. I actually disable push and notifications on everything. The only way things get pushed to me are txt and calls, everything else requires an act by me wanting to look at something.

I hate notifications and disturbances so if you _really_ need me you gotta go the old fashioned route and call/txt. And if you do need me I likely need to see something in email or slack or whatever to help provide context/details. Often times that is enough to let me continue about my business vs having to go back home and get on the computer (which hasnt happened in years thankfully)

My clients know my mobile number, so I know that if something urgent comes up they'll call me. No need for email...!