Launch HN: Sunsama (YC W19) – Daily Planner for Busy People
I'm Ashutosh, one of the founders of Sunsama (https://sunsama.com). Sunsama is a daily planner for busy folks. Each day, Sunsama walks you through a guided daily planning process that helps you create a calm, focused, and intentional plan for the day. Sunsama pulls together your calendar, emails, and tasks from other SaaS tools into a single place.
Travis and I started building products in the calendar and productivity space a couple years after graduating and working our first jobs. The idea that we were going to spend the next 40 years behind computers, working, and that Outlook or Google calendar would be the best way for us to be thoughtful and intentional with what we did at work felt unacceptable.
Before Sunsama, we built, launched, and shut down six different products in this space over the course of four years. I’ll spare you the postmortem on each failure but my favorite boondoggle was the first product we built. We tried to build a “social network for time” (think Calendly meets LinkedIn). In retrospect, it was doomed because it wasn’t something we needed ourselves nor did we have a real user in mind, we just thought that “networking calendars” would be an interesting problem to solve. After shipping this and learning that no one wanted it, we just kept frankensteining our software from one pivot to another, mostly unsuccessfully. In one of our last pivots before Sunsama as it is today we hit a breaking point when our biggest customer churned and we realized we only had a few months of runway. It was a gut punch because we felt we’d finally run out of “if we just change <blank>, this will definitely work” ideas.
This time, instead of frankensteining our idea, we took a step back and started fresh. Luckily, all the products we built were calendar/productivity related and over the years we’d talked to thousands of users and customers about their calendars, their work tools, and how they went about their work day. This intuition and expertise for how people work coupled with a fresh perspective got us to the realization that everyone started the day by asking themselves "what am I going to do today?" but answering that question was difficult and there wasn’t a great place to answer it. The calendar works well for planning meetings but is too clunky for heads down work. Project management tools work well for documenting all the work a team might do over long periods of time but it's stressful to look at hundreds of Jira tickets when you just want to work on a couple of them today. Text lists or written notes are flexible but don't connect back to the actual source of work. And simply keeping a mental list seems to break down once your job becomes sufficiently busy or ambitious.
So we decided to build a calendar + daily todo list for people who function on a hybrid of a maker and manager's schedule (to use Paul Graham’s terminology).
We’re excited to officially launch on HackerNews now that product is self service! It took us a while to get to this point as we originally started out as a product with a concierge onboarding (a la Superhuman).
Right now, we integrate with Google Calendar, Gmail, Asana, Github, Jira, Todoist and Trello. In the future, we hope to add more integrations and open up signups to folks who use those tools as well! We'd love your feedback on how it feels to plan out a workday with Sunsama!
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[ 94.0 ms ] story [ 2207 ms ] threadI found this review of how it can slot into someone's workflow -- https://amontalenti.com/2019/11/04/work-is-a-queue-of-queues .
Seems like you're making at least one person very happy!
Andrew Montalenti's post on work being a queue of queues is fascinating in its own right. One of the things we're betting on is that we'll live in a world with more work queues as SaaS tools proliferate and specialize. We're hoping to build a place where you can build your queue for the day.
I don't like it.. too many steps and effects in the interface for a list.
As for the form, it almost felt like one of those RPGs, where you're basically forced to answer "yes I'll pay". I can only assume that this is done for basic research. What's good for you is that you actually capture the No->Yes flow, which means "No".
I used 2 accounts, as I don't like giving apps full permission to my calendar.
Good luck!
So which is it? Why are you alienated by a product that says "we're not for you" if you have no interest in being a paying customer?
I think it could be solved for stubborn people like me if the survey got to that point and said "okay, if you're sure, you can still click here to request access but after 14 days you won't be able to continue to use it without signing up. We think you'll be persuaded!" -- or whatnot.
Seems fair enough that people should be able to try the free trial without having to agree that they're theoretically willing to pay 20/mo
I agree that the "opt-out" is not great, but I would change it to just a warning "This is paid software, after the trial you will need to subscribe".
I'd guess as a newly launched product they care most about getting some power users evangelizing it while they iterate on the packaging. It might not even be "delightful" yet but that doesn't mean users that need it won't pay for it to just work.
This is not a beginning of a beautiful friendship.
It's like saying "we are an X for really good people only", which leaves one to decide if they are brazen enough to consider themselves really good and try this wonder X or just accept the reality of being somewhat OK and move on.
Perhaps you are trying to be selective with whom you want to accept as clients and this is meant to be a filter, but it comes across as snobbish at best. There are other ways to phrase it without rubbing unwashed gray masses the wrong way.
Those who don't meet one of those criteria probably won't pay for a planner. But I agree the phrasing is odd.
I need to schedule stuff, but I am not elite or anything. Is there a market niche for my identity? ;)
The reason I put "If it's in you, I'll find it" is, if I waste good time and money looking for it, and see it's definitely not in you, I don't wanna be sued 'cos you haven't got it, so, you know, not gonna get me on that."
- David Brent
1. Pulling in tasks from multiple sources. Clubhouse and Things are the ones I use, sadly not supported.
2. Sharing tasks with teammates / seeing what they're up to regardless of the to-do tool they use. This is huge - always wondered why there was no team todo tracker that respected the idea that tasks are tracked in different tools but cross-departmental collaboration is necessary. For example dev work might happen in GitHub and marketing work in Basecamp. Marketing depends on dev but without a higher-level tool pulling in todos from both it's opaque to understand what other teams are working on.
There's a lot of other stuff going on and Sunsama is a pretty opinionated tool (Channels? Estimated/actual time tracking?)
On first blush comparisons to Superhuman are premature...
And yes, the daily planning workflow is definitely opinionated, I can't disagree!
Was allowed to proceed - but I need a path that doesn't require access to my calendar. (no product trust to do so that early). A comparison is I'm dropped right into Todoist
Yup, the one thing about Sunsama that's different than Todoist and other task tools is that it's not useful unless you use it with your calendar.
I haven't even looked at it but seeing this in the comments means I can't use it. Many (most?) of your target "elite professionals" are running Outlook in the enterprise.
edit: /s/hardly/heartily
I manage fine with just making notes on a monthly, weekly and daily level. To populate my todo lists, I review the other systems manually.
Rolling over unfinished work to the next day is as simple as copy+paste though that can be run as a cron job daily
[1] https://youtu.be/zwuvX4zc6aA
One quick issue: iPad Mini 2019 (5st. gen), part of the text is covered by images in the front page. https://imgur.com/wRwMSjv
Edit: this picture is just one example, but it happens along all the page, and images cannot be seen in full neither.
> Request an invite.
Ahh, good ol' artificial scarcity & elitism trick, good luck :)
>The daily planner for elite professionals.
Not gonna try your service.
Is there a way I can use Sunsama without a Google account?
I did see the potential of the service when I got an early invite. I quit the trial because I didn't agree with usage of Hotjar to record my actions. I didn't notice Hotjar on the front page (just a quick check.) Did you remove Hotjar (or similar) for the internal pages as well?
How long does the trial last? For me, these apps are all about working out kinks. The MOMENT I start feeling like it's "work" then it gets ejected out of my flow and at some point I'll circle back to cancel. Between evaluating the basics, such as privacy and testing with a small part of my flow, I probably need a couple weeks.
Can you comment on how you use the analytics?
EDIT: I see the trial is 14 days.
What could go wrong handing over our personal data to these people/companies
It would never be used as a poltical weapon against the people