Ask HN: How do you regain motivation after achieving financial success?

49 points by xoxoy ↗ HN
I got lucky at a few startups in my mid-20s and now in my early 30s feeling a profound loss of motivation to continue working or developing a career after achieving a comfortable worry-free level of financial success.

Perhaps part of it is that I’m not that motivated by either money or status or power.

Has anyone been in a similar situation and how did you deal with it to find motivation again?

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Why do you feel the need to chase what other people consider success? Live life on your own terms.
Search for what brings you satisfaction. Maybe its some obscure scientific stuff, some weird compiler work or something as simple as beer brewing or gardening. Experiment, hack, enjoy the process. Try a lot of things and find what you are passionate about. Not necessarily one thing, switch often and return to previously dropped things. You are in wonderful position to explore all interesting things in life without worrying about finances.
I'm losing motivation, but I'm not successful. I can't wait until I am successful enough to quit. If you're that successful, then I'd say you should quit and pursue other interests such as hobbies or a healthy lifestyle change.
I don't think you just got lucky, I think you got unbelievably lucky, Maybe make new startups and get others lucky? Did you found the other startups or did you just happen to be working there? I only ask because maybe you are burned out after starting a few?
Find your highest good. You have the means to pursue it.
This may some like I am over-simplifying it, but if you don't need to work either for financial or ambition reasons, do something else. Learn something, make something. Volunteer. Found a non-profit to try to help out a cause you believe in. Go study a topic that interests you. If you don't have any interests, start reading about all varieties of things until something sparks an interest.
Why would you want to find the motivation to "develop a career" if you neither have to nor have the motivation for it? You are free to do what fulfills you, makes you happy.

Personally, I'm a Basketball coach for 8-12 yo kids twice a week. I wish I could devote more resources towards it, since it truly is the most rewarding experience I have on a day-to-day basis, but a man's gotta pay the bills.

"Motivation for what?" is the question. If you've got enough money, properly invested, such that you don't need another job, then, this is not the question you should be asking. Ask yourself "What is the thing I would most like to be doing now?" and "What could I be doing now that would have the most impact?"

These are both kind of vague questions, but that's because you have to answer them for yourself. If the answers are the same, then you have a goal to work for that will probably motivate you quite well. If the answers are different, then you can decide based on whatever feels best for you.

You might also consider posting in some of the FIRE-related forums, particularly on Reddit. There are some good resources there, not the least of which is the community of people who can tell you how they approached questions like this in their lives.

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Donate all your money to modification to follow.
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If I were in that situation I would look to develop a career around the craft of programming rather than money.

So I’d look to work somewhere they are engineering driven and here is opportunity to work on really technically interesting work.

By having your own money salary is a non issue. If the interesting job is 20k Euros in Berlin or even equity only then you could do it.

Another thing I’d consider is to do a PhD.

I’ve gone through a few transitions in life that relate to this sort of thing, and have worked with a very well known CEO coach on this. His advice was invaluable.

He recommended a book on life transitions[1]. Whether you find wealth, retire, or do something else, such a major life transition often requires you to really invest in reflecting on what has changed, what hasn’t, what the deeper implications are, etc. The book above helps lay out some of those questions.

[1] https://www.amazon.ca/Transitions-Making-Sense-Lifes-Changes...

Thanks. Ordered. TIL that the amazon app is dumber than expected. The link above being Canadian, when I ordered, the app said it could not ship the book. Changed to a .com and then I could order the book. Yay computers.
Oops, sorry about that! :-)
Motivation is not a discipline. If you are constantly motivated, then it’s like, I guess ... not motivation. It’s hitting the boost in a racing game, if you are just boosting the whole game, that’s your baseline speed.

If you’re out of boost (motivation), just wait for it to recharge. But, certainly stay disciplined (maintain baseline speed), don’t stagnate, don’t miss your turns. When the boost shows up, it’ll be effective.

If you fuck up, and fall behind, the only thing the boost will be good for is bringing you up to speed since you languished wondering where it was this whole time.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designing_Your_Life

> The New York Times best-selling book was published in 2016 by Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group and utilizes a series of exercises throughout its eleven chapters in order to provide others with a sense of structure in their lives. These creative and thought provoking exercises allow the reader to reflect on their life and determine what they should do with their future. They can then generate a road map and plan how to accomplish their goals.

The book is largely geared towards working people but I think it’s actually more relevant if you have the freedom to do anything you want. Figure out what you want to be doing and motivation will follow.

Honestly I suggest just spending it. A yacht, fractional jet, a couple of mcclarens, maybe some investment in space technology, etc. Seems like most fortunes I have seen don’t withstand this level of spending. In 7 or 8 years you could completely have your motivation back :)
P.S. or you could just have a go at solving homelessness in silicon valley :)
Help other people. Volunteer for causes. Explore philosophy.

You're a free man. Use what you have wisely.

Have a family.

what is it that you like? if you like the work but not the additional hassles around it you can continue your work as a hobby. If you like helping others you work to make a diiference in other people's lives. Last but not the least it is ok not to work it is just a culural/social construct that everyone should work, if you are happy not working than don't work enjoy the sunshine, time with your loved ones and time with yourself.
Don't force motivation on you. It won't work that way. If you reached FIRE, it is best time to enjoy every moment. Motivation will come eventually.

Mostly because of insecurities we keep telling ourselves to work hard else you will be left behind. Truth is, even you become successful (in traditional sense), you will not take anything with you after death. Once you take away idea of staying motivated, you will start doing whatever you like. You can find happiness in simple things like waking up in morning, driking a glass of water or cup of coffee.

See how Feyman tackeled burn out. (Burn out doesn't mean working hard and not getting results. It is a successive feeling of not adding any value to your life)

https://www.mymoneyblog.com/richard-feynman-fighting-burnout...

This video might help you. Please watch till end.

https://youtu.be/7sH41GWY0CU?t=71

Be bored and intentionally deprive yourself of stimulation. Children chase noisy and colorful, bright things. Adults do the same. They're distractions. My own ambition is to have enough to retire early and start my own little shipbuilding and repair company. Using ones hands is surprisingly humbling.
> a profound loss of motivation to continue working or developing a career after achieving a comfortable worry-free level of financial success.

So it sounds as though if you gave most of your $ to people who could really improve their lives hugely with a little $, everyone would be better off. Or at least be happier, which is a major form of being better off. Having done something towards helping others and making the world a better place would feel good too, I imagine.

You may find motivation to advise startups and give your input with respect to certain situations, problems, bottlenecks, product, contracts, deals, roadmaps, etc.

For example, you say you have been lucky at a few startups. The common position here, even for early employees, is that they will see no financial benefit from the company unless they're the founders. How can people be as 'lucky' as you were?

There are way more examples of people being burned and seeing no return than there are examples of people who have been 'lucky', and having gone through it multiple times, you may know things others don't.

My point is, you probably have knowledge that could be helpful to others. You could chime in the several Ask HN threads, or write blog posts, etc.

It would help others avoid some mistakes and amortize the mistakes you've made and what you learned from them by trial and error. For example, sometimes I'll put a reply with a bunch of links to other replies on a topic[0].

- [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25025253