Poll: Have you had a SSD fail?
Related to Atwood's post about SSD failures (http://news.ycombinator.org/item?id=2505700), thought it would be interesting to gage HN users on their experiences. Please only participate if you actually have/had a SSD for at least 3 months. If 'Yes' leave a comment about drive details and time till failure.
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[ 5.1 ms ] story [ 92.3 ms ] threadI also have had an OCZ Agility 2 in my laptop for about a year now, and that drive hosts a (small) swapfile. No problems.
Both these systems run Linux.
However, I purchased an OCZ Vertex 2 for my parents a few months ago as they were building a new computer. About 2 months went by, then one day -- boom -- computer won't boot anymore. I go over and investigate, and it ultimately turns out there's a bug in the latest (read: shipping) firmware in the Vertex 2 which is tripped by some S3 power state transition (e.g. when the computer goes into hibernate mode) and causes the driver controller itself to stop responding. So, your data is OK, but there's no way to flash the drive or anything because the BIOS won't even recognize the drive anymore.
So, my advice is -- get an SSD (or two, in RAID0, if you can afford it), but make sure to keep any really important files backed up (you should be doing this anyway); also, make sure to update your firmware regularly, since the firmware itself may contain bugs that could wreck your drive.
Easier said than done with the Vertex 2 if you've got a Mac. The firmware updater is a Windows only program. At least it was when I was installing my Vertex 2.
I would also advise making regular backups, checking SMART and for firmware updates regularly.
The previous drive I had was a Kingston 64GB and it still works after a year.
I haven't noticed much of a difference other than the occasional instance of leaving the laptop on and without power (no autosleep for me).
Dropbox+svn/git make sure I don't lose any code.
Waiting for a MBP update to ship with lion and dual sata rev 3 (currently its only one rev 2 and one rev 3) so I can RAID 0 two SF2500 based SSDs like the vertex 3 pro.
It wasn't clear to me that this was a software limitation...
Both are under constant use (that raid is the only drive in my development machine) and they run fine so far.
At home I'm running two 256GB multi-level SSDs also from Intel, also in a RAID0. I bought them last December after having one Corsair SSD in a previous RAID0 attempt constantly losing some data (the other one was fine).
3 other people in the office are running SSDs (also 160GB Intel) since the end of 2009. OSes include MacOS X, Ubuntu and Windows XP and now 7.
All work fine so far and I'm not seeing any of the often quoted reliability issues (aside of that one that was defective from day 0 which happens with hard drives too)
And before you ask about the safety of using a RAID0: No I don't have backups but also, no, I don't need backups as all the important files are in git and all of my profile is on Dropbox.
For your sake I hope it is.
A vertex2 or vertexLE is a completely different beast than a vertex1.
Both drives had a pretty high read/write usage ratio, though. And most of the rewriting taking place was small in volume. I ordered a Vertex 3 drive last week, and I intend to sync its contents with a magnetic drive in the same system a few times a day, just like I have been doing with the other two drives. So all in all, besides the first Intel drive being a fluke, my experience was quite positive.
Two OCZ Vertex 2E's 120GB (separate machines). Had both for 6 months and both are working reliably with no signs of problems or performance degradation.
Not had a single failure so far.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227...
Of the 425 ratings, 17% are 1-star ratings, based almost entirely on a short-term failure measured in < 6 months. That's not to say the Vertex 2 as a whole has a failure rate that high (this is the vocal minority, after all), but it should at least help put some of the nay-sayers in perspective.
I was right. Everyone was right. It's still running now, without issue, and I enjoy 8 second boot times with Windows 7 and virtually instantaneous-launch applications. Well worth the price. I regularly backup my data but it's nice to know that if it failed today I could buy a replacement from NewEgg for nearly half the price and probably better performance.
There's nothing like seeing 6 kvm virtual machines boot up in seconds to remind you that they're damn fast on reads.
I've had another one (2.5") in my Macbook since early january. No problems either.
Performance might have degraded, but not that I've noticed.
I'm now back to good old hard drives, sure it's WAY slower but the current state of SSDs seemed to be a bit too unreliable.
One is my boot drive, and one is my media drive. SMART reports the boot drive has 78% of its erases left, and the media drive 100% (mostly static data). ~20% erases down after 16 months means if the wear leveling works out, my drive should last another 5 years.
My usage is quite normal - coding work doesn't do very many heavy writes. I have 8 GB RAM, so the swap file doesn't see much usage, but instead there's 8 GB of hibernate file writes whenever I put my laptop to sleep (a couple times a day). Also, there's some background process that hits the drive with ~100 KB of writes every couple of seconds.
The first few failures I wanted to chalk up to SSDs being flaky or my being sent refurb drives, but given that I had so many in the same machine and no problems in any other desktops and laptops I tested SSDs with, I just want to blame the machine.
I then bought a 240GB OWC Mercury Extreme Pro and put it in the same MBP. It's been running fine for about eight months now.