Since FB isn't a porn website I'd assume they do. A similar question would be, does facebook remove defamation/libel/videos (or profiles) of you or impersonating you etc.
This actually seems pretty damning for pornhub as the 118 were reported by an external entity where Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter are self reported and removed.
So according to their own stats, pornhub has zero self reports. They describe a few technologies used and it seems reasonable that they would report how many times these technologies identified and removed content.
That they aren’t presenting this data in their defense is not a good sign.
Exactly. I did a double-take at this "comparison":
>Unverified users are now banned from uploading content — a policy no other platform has put in place, including Facebook, which reported 84 million instances of child sexual abuse material over the last three years. In comparison, the Internet Watch Foundation reported 118 incidents on Pornhub over the last three years.
So NYT essentially let an editor post a libelous piece of work now that has cost a company a major source of revenue? What are the odds this isn't going to turn into a lawsuit?
This is exactly what people mean when they say “fake news” in many cases. Not that the facts of a story are technically incorrect, but the way things are presented (or not presented) is intentionally designed to shift the readers perspective in a certain direction.
Reading the NY times article I wasn't sure whether to laugh or rage at how the author repeatedly equated videos with "teen" in the title and child sex abuse. I've been an avid consumer of porn since the early 1990s and nearly every movie has a "teen" in it who is certainly no younger than 25. So apparently all of that "sexy teen" porn I've watched over the years was CP.
It's been my experience that criticizing the nyt is the easiest way to get downvoted and flagged. So brace yourself. The most privileged propaganda company in the world.
That's pornhub saying "Come back with a Police Report."
I mean no offense to these victims, but unfortunately, you have to engage with the legal system if you also want private entities to participate as well. Otherwise they set a standard that anybody who wanted anything taken down could just claim "rape, etc" and then they'd be shooting themselves in the foot for a legitimate lawsuit.
I get that it's hard, but many of these victims need to realize when you make a bold claim such as that, you need to completely commit to that path. Otherwise it's still strictly hearsay.
Pornhub does not deny any of the allegations in the NYT article. They only claim that they have instituted policies to address the issues raised in the article.
They are a shady bunch and don’t seem to care about the victims, otherwise they would have invested more of their profits into detecting abuse and exploitation.
I hope they get shutdown or be replaced by a better leadership so that a more ethical platform can arise.
you mean pornhub users looking for child porn aren't reporting it to the proper authorities? that is shocking. it's also worthwhile to take all their stats at face value because they have such a strong track record of caring about anything other than a buck. next you'll tell me cigarette companies may have tried similar stunts in previous generations and I'll be equally shocked.
The CSAM numbers are presented awkwardly. The FB numbers suggest FB is way worse, but the FB and Twitter numbers are platform reported rather than externally identified.
FB and Twitter make more reports and publish more transparently. I’d also wager that reports = (all content #)(prevalence rate of CSAM)(detection sensitivity)*(reporting rate) and FB/TWTR probably have infinitely higher first terms, and better 3 and 4th terms in the equation.
Porn existed before PornHub did, and will continue to exist after. Cutting them off payment networks will not have any meaningful effects (except in the short term).
On the bright side, people who pay for content are getting onboard the crypto train.
“Prepaid BTC” isn’t very useful when it’s so volatile. You buy a $100 prepaid card and tomorrow it’s worth $50. Sure, the amount of BTC would be the same, but it’s buying power would change too much too rapidly.
How much does a porn subscription cost? Something tells me the kind of person who pays for porn won't mind too much if they have to buy a little extra bitcoin sometimes.
It's interesting to see how things are playing out now that attacking a company via its payment processor has been mainstreamed as an activist technique.
Incidentally Pornhub is really a company called Mindgeek, so its tech employees can keep their resumes SFW. Worth knowing whether you are pro- or anti- Pornhub specifically or porn in general.
What I find interesting about this whole pornhub discussion is that nobody is at all mentioning the vast amounts of videos with unwilling participants in them that are across sites like pornhub. Do you remember when the whole internet was outraged over reddit's creepshots subreddit? the amount of urinal spy, locker room spy and nudist beach spy videos on these sites is huge! Why does nobody care?
As a victim, you have to go public, you need the better lawyers then pornhub and some money reserves. If you succeed you stand even more in the public eyes and if you loose too.
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[ 4.1 ms ] story [ 82.1 ms ] threadPornhub also attached the figures provided by Internet Watch Foundation comparing CSAM found in other platforms:
Facebook: 84,100,000
Instagram: 4,452,000
Twitter: 1,466,398 - You can navigate through the old reports near the top on the right hand side, adding up the totals from the last two years.
Pornhub: 118
So according to their own stats, pornhub has zero self reports. They describe a few technologies used and it seems reasonable that they would report how many times these technologies identified and removed content.
That they aren’t presenting this data in their defense is not a good sign.
>Unverified users are now banned from uploading content — a policy no other platform has put in place, including Facebook, which reported 84 million instances of child sexual abuse material over the last three years. In comparison, the Internet Watch Foundation reported 118 incidents on Pornhub over the last three years.
I'd argue that this is a serious matter.
I mean no offense to these victims, but unfortunately, you have to engage with the legal system if you also want private entities to participate as well. Otherwise they set a standard that anybody who wanted anything taken down could just claim "rape, etc" and then they'd be shooting themselves in the foot for a legitimate lawsuit.
I get that it's hard, but many of these victims need to realize when you make a bold claim such as that, you need to completely commit to that path. Otherwise it's still strictly hearsay.
Pornhub does not deny any of the allegations in the NYT article. They only claim that they have instituted policies to address the issues raised in the article.
https://traffickinghub.com/
They are a shady bunch and don’t seem to care about the victims, otherwise they would have invested more of their profits into detecting abuse and exploitation.
I hope they get shutdown or be replaced by a better leadership so that a more ethical platform can arise.
FB and Twitter make more reports and publish more transparently. I’d also wager that reports = (all content #)(prevalence rate of CSAM)(detection sensitivity)*(reporting rate) and FB/TWTR probably have infinitely higher first terms, and better 3 and 4th terms in the equation.
On the bright side, people who pay for content are getting onboard the crypto train.
Incidentally Pornhub is really a company called Mindgeek, so its tech employees can keep their resumes SFW. Worth knowing whether you are pro- or anti- Pornhub specifically or porn in general.
I expect it was the same people were white-knighting on Reddit in one window while simultaneously consuming this material on Pornhub in another.