> What does a moderately northern place with a big city look like when the Church of Shutdown is worshipped and the Ritual of the Mask is observed? The Maskachusetts COVID-19 death rate per 100,000 people is 182 (CDC). Sweden’s rate is 86
I don't know about Sweden, but I do know about MA, and the deaths here primarily predate the adoption of masks.
You are right that Massachusetts had the highest daily number of deaths in April, before the mask mandate was issued. Sweden peaked a couple weeks earlier than Massachusetts, with a max rate about 1/4 as high. Rates in both places then dropped, and through most of the summer, Sweden continued to have rates much lower than Massachusetts. In the late fall, the rates in Sweden increased (from close to zero) and for the first time caught up to the (increasing) rates in Massachusetts.
> They also convince themselves that it is the interest of young Black Americans living with young kids in apartments. So they’re not only saving themselves, but saving others. It doesn’t strike them as unlikely that a policy designed and imposed by rich white people would be beneficial to low-income Black Americans.
The problem with this take is that it's the opposite: Black and Hispanic Americans support lockdown measures more than Whites[1]. They are also more worried about being hospitalized due to COVID. This makes sense, as it's supported by the CDC's data[2]. It's unfortunate this has become a common misconception.
your statement re: [1] is not represented in the source, and is a significant misrepresentation.
Citing the studies that source references, Black and Hispanic Americans are far more >Concerned<, and far more readily >Exposed<, which would reasonably align with their demographic's employment situation.
To suggest they support lockdown measures is both a spurious jump that is suggested nowhere in the article that I could find, and biases interpretation of the source to the point of misdirection.
While a rebuttal may still be supported by other external data, I think your comment as it stands merits criticism.
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[ 3.6 ms ] story [ 26.0 ms ] threadI don't know about Sweden, but I do know about MA, and the deaths here primarily predate the adoption of masks.
You are right that Massachusetts had the highest daily number of deaths in April, before the mask mandate was issued. Sweden peaked a couple weeks earlier than Massachusetts, with a max rate about 1/4 as high. Rates in both places then dropped, and through most of the summer, Sweden continued to have rates much lower than Massachusetts. In the late fall, the rates in Sweden increased (from close to zero) and for the first time caught up to the (increasing) rates in Massachusetts.
> They also convince themselves that it is the interest of young Black Americans living with young kids in apartments. So they’re not only saving themselves, but saving others. It doesn’t strike them as unlikely that a policy designed and imposed by rich white people would be beneficial to low-income Black Americans.
The problem with this take is that it's the opposite: Black and Hispanic Americans support lockdown measures more than Whites[1]. They are also more worried about being hospitalized due to COVID. This makes sense, as it's supported by the CDC's data[2]. It's unfortunate this has become a common misconception.
[1] https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/04/14/health-conce...
[2] https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/health-e...
Citing the studies that source references, Black and Hispanic Americans are far more >Concerned<, and far more readily >Exposed<, which would reasonably align with their demographic's employment situation.
To suggest they support lockdown measures is both a spurious jump that is suggested nowhere in the article that I could find, and biases interpretation of the source to the point of misdirection.
While a rebuttal may still be supported by other external data, I think your comment as it stands merits criticism.
The deaths this year are mostly from cohorts from 60+ years ago - especially relevant when talking about Covid.