Whatever Parler's role or responsibility in recent events, it's doubly so for Facebook and Twitter. Parler has a comparatively minuscule user base.
The demo was also organized via email and was explicitly intended to be peaceful — what unfolded on 1/6 cannot be read at face value, and certainly what the media is portraying(both the corporate and alternative media) can't be read at face value.
Not sure what you're saying with that second sentence. There is legitimate reason to have some zip ties, yes. I don't know the US traditions that well, but I doubt molotov cocktails or pipe bombs are usually required for a peaceful demo? Now most people probably not even had guns, but attacking the Capitol? Come on. That's a direct, violent attack on the democratic processes.
You're right that Facebook and Twitter should have acted sooner. Free speech doesn't mean a platform has no other option than to tolerate hate, violence and lies.
The reason for the lack of guns is most likely that the attackers had come directly from a Trump rally where there was security at the entrance including metal detectors. Had that not been the case there would likely have been a lot more weapons.
Parler has (had) ten million accounts, over half of which were considered active, that’s hardly a small number. And the big and obvious difference between Parler and Facebook is that Parler wilfully ignored disgusting and credible calls to violence, including direct threats against elected representatives and ordinary voters alike. Attempting to draw a parallel between them is disingenuous at best.
It's sketchy on Twitter ToS. The original link just discussed the hack, which would be fine. Further comments have linked to hacked content, which is a violation. I'd guess Reddit will eventually delete those direct links making the tweet fine again.
I heard the Twitter ToS says discussing the hack is ok, but hacked content shared by the hacker is not. Twitter will stop removing ‘hacked content’ unless it’s shared by hackers.[1]
The image in the OP shows a tweet (which is still up) from someone who claims to be one of the hackers. https://twitter.com/donk_enby
Hear, hear. I'd like to take some of the heat along with you.
I really dislike the "two minute hate" we've had going on recently. Over the last week or so, it's been nothing but hate this, hate that. I get why it's happening, it just makes me sad.
The linked to Reddit thread doesn’t make sense. The submitted screenshot refers to someone doing a public crawl. The top comment refers to escalated user privileges. It’s true that yesterday, Parler’s user email/phone verification was down, letting people create new accounts without restriction. But I don’t see how that led to creating admin accounts.
With email verification down, the "reset password" seems to have required no verification other than having the username. So they grabbed an admin account and made scores of new admins. Or I misread something.
Once a couple services went down and their endpoints were inadvertently made public by the service providers making announcements, it was fait accompli. Turns out Parler was not made with security and privacy in mind AT ALL. It was slightly better than MVP.
I wouldn’t be surprised. I poked around the site a few weeks back and it looked to me like it was probably built by less experienced individuals and had potential for big security holes.
Looks like people got keys to the kingdom.
I just wonder if all the Parlor sad song tiny fiddle nonsense is due to being kicked off platforms or if it’s a distraction to hide their incompetence with this leak.
I think people underestimate how hard it is to acquire talent when you're an operation like Parler. The average person is not going to want to work for them.
You can't even say it's a principled free speech stand because Parler does ban people for less egregious things than organizing an insurrection (i.e. posting poop pictures).
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[ 3.5 ms ] story [ 111 ms ] threadAnd I'm pretty sure it's not allowed by reddit's and Twitter's ToS, yet this time it apparently is.
Whatever Parler's role or responsibility in recent events, it should be sorted out by the justice system, not vigilantism.
Those who would throw away the rule of law in order to protect it have already abandoned the principles they claim to be defending.
The demo was also organized via email and was explicitly intended to be peaceful — what unfolded on 1/6 cannot be read at face value, and certainly what the media is portraying(both the corporate and alternative media) can't be read at face value.
Peacefully bringing firearms into the capital and calling it "1776"
Seems a lot of people didn’t get that particular memo
You're right that Facebook and Twitter should have acted sooner. Free speech doesn't mean a platform has no other option than to tolerate hate, violence and lies.
The image in the OP shows a tweet (which is still up) from someone who claims to be one of the hackers. https://twitter.com/donk_enby
1: https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/16/21519133/twitter-changin...
I really dislike the "two minute hate" we've had going on recently. Over the last week or so, it's been nothing but hate this, hate that. I get why it's happening, it just makes me sad.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25726620 : Parler Databases Disclosed (twitter.com/bitburner) (96 comments)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25726603 : Massive Parler User Data Breach (reddit.com)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25726466 : All Parler user data was downloaded by hackers (reddit.com) (2 comments)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25725268 : [flagged] Parler user data exposed and exfiltrated (facebook.com) (37 comments)
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm
Looks like people got keys to the kingdom.
I just wonder if all the Parlor sad song tiny fiddle nonsense is due to being kicked off platforms or if it’s a distraction to hide their incompetence with this leak.
You can't even say it's a principled free speech stand because Parler does ban people for less egregious things than organizing an insurrection (i.e. posting poop pictures).
True though, don't think many people would want to work for them and as it seems they need some devs at least.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1327253991936454663.html